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What is the plan for our national debt?

Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:36 am
Will it just continue to grow unchecked?

When will it become a bigger problem?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12350 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:37 am to
It was reduced by 100 billion the past 2 months.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139673 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:38 am to
I haven't really seen a realistic plan. Realistic to me is revenue increase with spending decrease.

Good luck with that.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16967 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:39 am to
quote:

What is the plan for our national debt?


Purge all democrats from Congress.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:40 am to
Do nothing until a Democrat is back in the White House when it will then become the most pressing issue again.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:41 am to
Conservatives are not about reducing debt. They are about reducing revenue. Big difference.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:41 am to
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Purge all democrats from Congress.


This guy thinks Republicans don't have a spending problem. The truth is we ALL have a gov't spending problem. We want cuts until they affect us and massive spending cuts affect us all.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26957 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:42 am to
Dave Ramsey Snowball??

What is our smallest debt? It's Ebay isn't it?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:44 am to
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Dave Ramsey Snowball


That would actually be a great approach.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33909 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:44 am to
Do I need to post that article again about how much of the national debt consists of social security and retirement funds and how misleading that number is?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:45 am to
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Do I need to post that article again about how much of the national debt consists of social security and retirement funds and how misleading that number is?



Please & thank you
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

This guy thinks Republicans don't have a spending problem. The truth is we ALL have a gov't spending problem. We want cuts until they affect us and massive spending cuts affect us all.


Now that trump is in office and republicans control congress, you strangely don't hear nearly as much about the deficit any more.....
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139673 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Do nothing until a Democrat is back in the White House when it will then become the most pressing issue again.


Which, funny enough, is the exact same strategy as the Dems.

Maybe the Dems and Reps are friends after all.

Frick them both.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33257 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

What is the plan for our national debt?
The plan is to continue to be the biggest world power of all time with the go-to currency among all countries. Or, we could mint a 10 trillion dollar coin and deposit it in the treasury, thus paying off half overnight.
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:48 am to
when it takes $20 to buy a loaf of bread, $20T will be nothing.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Dave Ramsey Snowball??

What is our smallest debt? It's Ebay isn't it?




Gov't debt and personal debt are apples and oranges. That's been covered here.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139673 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:50 am to
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Now that trump is in office and republicans control congress, you strangely don't hear nearly as much about the deficit any more.....


Which, funny enough, is the exact opposite of what happens when dems are in office.

Frick them both.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

What is the plan for our national debt?

Ignore it
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33909 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Please & thank you


quote:

The U.S. debt is $19.9 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the United States owes China, which is one of the largest foreign owners. What many people don’t know is that the Social Security Trust Fund, aka your retirement money, owns most of the national debt. How does that work, and what does it mean?

The U.S. Treasury manages the U.S. debt through its Bureau of the Public Debt.


The debt falls into two broad categories: Intragovernmental Holdings and Debt Held by the Public.

Intragovernmental Holdings. This is the federal debt owed to 230 other federal agencies. It totals $5.554 trillion, almost 30 percent of the debt. Why would the government owe money to itself? Some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need. Rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress, they buy U.S. Treasurys with it.

Which agencies own the most Treasuries? Social Security, by a long shot. Here's the detailed breakdown (as of December 31, 2016).

Social Security (Social Security Trust Fund and Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund) - $2.801 trillion
Office of Personnel Management Retirement - $888 billion
Military Retirement Fund - $670 billion
Medicare (Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund, Federal
Supplementary Medical Insurance Trust Fund) - $294 billion
All other retirement funds - $304 billion
Cash on hand to fund federal government operations - $580 billion.

Debt Held by the Public. This is the rest of the national debt, totaling $14.403 trillion. Foreign governments and investors hold nearly half of the nation's public debt. One-fourth is held by other governmental entities. These include the Federal Reserve, as well as state and local governments. Fifteen percent is held by mutual funds, private pension funds, savings bonds or individual Treasury notes. The remaining 10 percent is owned by businesses, like banks and insurance companies, and an assortment of trusts, companies, and investors. Here's the breakdown:

Foreign - $6.281 trillion
Federal Reserve - $2.463 trillion
Mutual funds - $1.379 trillion
State and local government, including their pension funds - $874 billion
Private pension funds - $544 billion
Banks - $570 billion
Insurance companies - $304 billion
U.S. savings bonds - $169 billion
Other (individuals, government-sponsored enterprises, brokers and dealers, bank personal trusts and estates, corporate and non-corporate businesses, and other investors) - $1.349 trillion.

As you can see, if you add up the debt held by Social Security and all the retirement and pension funds, nearly half of the U.S. Treasury debt is held in trust for your retirement. If the United States defaults on its debt, foreign investors would be angry, but current and future retirees would be hurt the most.



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Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:51 am to
You should learn about how the financial system works. The only real way to pay it off is to get rid of the central bank.

Only person to pay it down was Andrew Jackson. He got rid of the central bank.
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