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VPN company takes out full page ad regarding S.J.Res 34 passing

Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:32 am


This bill is truly indefensible. Yet almost nobody is talking about it. If this passes on the house, just go ahead and bend over for Big Brother.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:33 am to
seeing Sasse on this makes me sad

Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:34 am to
Somebody's on Reddit


Almost posted this. Question...Why did Rand abstain?
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:34 am to
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seeing Sasse on this makes me sad
I'm also surprised to see Lee and Cruz on there too. I'm assuming that there is more to it.
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:38 am to
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Somebody's on Reddit



Yep. But this shite should be everywhere. I'm kinda shocked that it has barely been discussed here. Especially with posters on both sides of the spectrum having so much distrust in our government.


Rand should've been outspoken about this bill. I'm disappointed that he wasn't.
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:41 am to
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I'm also surprised to see Lee and Cruz on there too. I'm assuming that there is more to it.


I haven't seen anything else. Everything I've seen, it's about allowing you browsing history to be sold to companies to profit. This appears to be strictly about the money. Being that it was so quiet leading up to it, I doubt they even read the bill.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:42 am to
here is Flake's defense of the bill

LINK

I need to read more on this
Posted by TrebleHook
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:55 am to
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:56 am to
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I haven't seen anything else. Everything I've seen, it's about allowing you browsing history to be sold to companies to profit. This appears to be strictly about the money. Being that it was so quiet leading up to it, I doubt they even read the bill.


I don't know the details, but "your" browsing history belongs to the company that you use to browse. Unless there is a contractual agreement to protect that history, then I don't see the problem with this. recommend someone step up and develop a more secure system
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:01 am to
I was told Ben Sasse and Mike Lee were the real principled conservatives in DC...
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:09 am to
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Unless there is a contractual agreement to protect that history, then I don't see the problem with this.


There isn't a contractual agreement, because it's been the law up until this point.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:13 am to
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There isn't a contractual agreement, because it's been the law up until this point.



What was the law? That companies can't sell browsing data?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:15 am to
this is one of those

"hates big government...UNLESS!" scenarios for cons
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:16 am to
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What was the law? That companies can't sell browsing data?


Yes. That is current law.

But that hasn't always been the case. FCC took over regulations from the FTC a couple of years ago and made the regulations for ISPs much more strict than for companies like Google and FB.

This new law will basically make it all even, meaning ISPs would be under the same laws as Google, FB, etc.

Someone needs to explain the fear mongering behind this because I'm not seeing it
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 11:18 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:17 am to
quote:

this is one of those

"hates big government...UNLESS!" scenarios for cons



ahhhh. Gotcha.


How awesome would it be to be paid to browse the Internet? Could that be a real possibility if companies sell browsing data? I dunno, but I don't have a problem with it barring fraudulent practices.
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:17 am to
https://medium.freecodecamp.com/how-to-set-up-a-vpn-in-5-minutes-for-free-and-why-you-urgently-need-one

quote:

So how do we have any hope of protecting our privacy now?
According to a study by the Pew Research Center, 91% of adults agree or strongly agree that “consumers have lost control of how personal information is collected and used by companies.”
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Yes. That is current law.

But that hasn't always been the case. FCC took over regulations from the FTC a couple of years ago and made the regulations for ISPs much more strict than for companies like Google and FB.

This new law will basically make it all even, meaning ISPs would be under the same laws as Google, FB, etc.

Someone needs to explain the fear mongering behind this because I'm not seeing it


Well it sounds like the government has been selectively regulating what companies do with their own data, which is dumb.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:20 am to
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Well it sounds like the government has been selectively regulating what companies do with their own data, which is dumb.


correct

the basis for the bill is "why are ISPs being treated differently from Google?"

and I understand that ISPs generally have a monopoly due to crony capitalism, so that makes this a bit trickier in all these regulations

I really go back and forth on all these ISP regulations

This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:21 am to
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correct

the basis for the bill is "why are ISPs being treated differently from Google?


Thanks for the rundown
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:26 am to
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How awesome would it be to be paid to browse the Internet?


I've read there are apps that pay to monitor everything you do with your phone.
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