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re: Violence In Modern Politics
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:43 pm to bigbowe80
Posted on 6/16/17 at 2:43 pm to bigbowe80
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Where have you seen "real communism"? Show us where "real communism" works and doesn't turn into precisely what you see in places like Russia, China, Cuba, and say Venezuela. But yea I know I know, it's always next time-- next time they'll get it right, they just need another chance to get it right. It will surely
Work next time.
You misunderstand me. I dont believe we need communism. frick communism. Im just saying that those are not examples of left wing style communism. Theyre authoritarian and militarized which is more of an extreme right wing deal.
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:34 pm to Ebbandflow
What??? Communism is left wing, no way around that. It always ends up authoritarian and militarized because it doesn't work and then forces the prevailing government entity into a tyrannical corrupt system due to the destined-to-fail left wing ideologies its based on.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:37 pm to TheLSUriot
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What??? Communism is left wing, no way around that. It always ends up authoritarian and militarized because it doesn't work and then forces the prevailing government entity into a tyrannical corrupt system due to the destined-to-fail left wing ideologies its based on.
So believe China or Stalin were trying the actual model first, for the people? Gtfo
They used the guise of something pro-populace to gain power and have the people behind it.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:40 pm to TheXman
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If you haven't noticed that every communist state devolves into that pretty quickly, I don't know what to tell you.
That is 'real communism
That is due to intent. Power hungry people like to persuade the public in struggling lands and then replace it with totalitarianism. Pretty simple
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:49 pm to Ebbandflow
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That is due to intent
Exactly!
quote:
Power hungry people like to persuade the public in struggling lands
Sounds eerily similar to today's democratic party and how their leaders persuade a good percentage of the democratic voting base.(supported by the liberal MSM)
Oh, I know you want to say "but republicans do the same thing". Perhaps, but republican goals aren't to create a socialist/communism state; nor a fascist state. They also haven't forced a welfare state upon this country like the democrats have.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 3:58 pm to Ebbandflow
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quote:You fricking idiot Obama was telling his supporters to get in people's faces in 08 and 09
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Link?
U serious?
Whole slew of Obama encouraging hyped political rhetoric
Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies
Damn man...these are not hard to look up.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:36 pm to TheLSUriot
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Exactly!
quote:
Power hungry people like to persuade the public in struggling lands
Sounds eerily similar to today's democratic party and how their leaders persuade a good percentage of the democratic voting base.(supported by the liberal MSM)
Oh, I know you want to say "but republicans do the same thing". Perhaps, but republican goals aren't to create a socialist/communism state; nor a fascist state. They also haven't forced a welfare state upon this country like the democrats have
No. No. No. Dems and Republicans alike have created and coddled welfare. Just because Repubs rile you guys up.with talking points doesnt mean they will stop it. They've had plenty of chances to end welfare. Hasnt happened. Wont happen. There is value for both parties to keep that element dependent.
My point about intemt is that those totalitarian regimes never intended to create a communist state. It was always about the authoritarian hard line.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:42 pm to Ebbandflow
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Ebbandflow
Are you a communist on paper? Do you support communism?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:50 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:Ah, the old tried and true "that wasn't real communism/socialism" bit.
So believe China or Stalin were trying the actual model first, for the people? Gtfo
Why is it that every single failed communist/socialist state is explained away with "intent" or "not true communism/socialism"?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:54 pm to Ebbandflow
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Ebbandflow
Sir, all I can say to you is, your brand of stupidity has cost millions of people their lives. You are what Josef Stalin called a "useful idiot."
What you are denying throughout this thread is that Communism is clearly a left-wing economic system, and that's why you look like a fool.
No one buys your bullshite without being forced to at the point of a gun. Is Obamacare right-wing because it was backed by government force to participate in?
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