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re: Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'

Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:38 pm to
I mean no shite Trump is not a good public speaker with all the oratory skills of Reagan and Obama but even when he still fumbles a statement, you can still understand what he said and that context is everything.

Just chalk it up to a case of the autism coming out of the woodworks there.
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:38 pm to
I quoted the title of the article. It’s what he said.

He also said “but when it happens it still hurts”.

Here’s what you do:

You call. You thank them for their service, their sacrifice, and whatever specific details of their bravery can safely be disclosed. You offer condolences, you offer whatever comfort you can, and you listen to whatever they have to say. Then you get off the phone.

You don’t say “he knew what he signed up for” at any point in there. It’s not hard to not say stuff. Making those calls is difficult. It’s not difficult to not use the MOST classic line idiots use to dismiss dead soldiers.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:39 pm to
Yeah, Trump really just had an urge to call up the widow and be a dick to her

You frickers outrage about everything he does. He's got you so mind fricked your minds are pretty much fried.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37436 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:41 pm to
You are fake news buddy.

You're going off what some Miami Democrat claims she overheard.

Sad!
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:42 pm to
FT shut the frick up. This thread is stupid and you're stupid for making it. Let's not pretend for a second you actually give a shite about what Trump said to that guy's parents past being able to attack Trump with it.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 9:42 pm
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:42 pm to
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frick him. Indefensible.

Oh I'm sure it was harsh, brash, cold as hell. You fricks fall for this BS every fricking time only to vanish when the truth comes out. I guarantee those seven words were taken out of the middle of a conversation...and away we go. What difference does it make...amiright? This is the liberal media's new attempt at trying to stir up more BS. The liberals are at an all time low at every facet, and they refuse to touch any of the scandals, but this...this is worse than a bunch of libs raping girls.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27690 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

Yeah, Trump really just had an urge to call up the widow and be a dick to her

You frickers outrage about everything he does. He's got you so mind fricked your minds are pretty much fried.


for certain,we need to start thinking about the camps for real.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17437 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

Here’s what you do: You call. You thank them for their service, their sacrifice, and whatever specific details of their bravery can safely be disclosed. You offer condolences, you offer whatever comfort you can, and you listen to whatever they have to say. Then you get off the phone. You don’t say “he knew what he signed up for” at any point in there. It’s not hard to not say stuff. Making those calls is difficult. It’s not difficult to not use the MOST classic line idiots use to dismiss dead soldiers.


You know how to do this because of what? Listen dude you are speaking straight out of your arse. I have had to say “on behalf of a grateful nation....” as I handed over the flag that had been draped on his casket to his mother and fiancé of my friend/next door neighbor. Until you have have had to do that I would say you haven’t a fricking clue what needs to be said in this situation. Now go frick yourself with a splintery 2X4 to creepy piece of shite.
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:44 pm to
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Sentrius

I mean no shite Trump is not a good public speaker with all the oratory skills of Reagan and Obama


Obama? A quote from Obama would include three references to himself and only made possible by teleprompter. Obama
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57462 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:45 pm to
Why do you Dems feel the need to lie and take things out of context?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Indefensible

Only if your a Trump hating libtard.

I would look at Trump's patriotism and assume he was acknowledging the dead man's bravery in volunteering despite the real possibility of death by special forces.

Then like a dishonest SJW you cut out his next words that indicate the pain the family is undergoing.

Reading the whole article indicates rampant anti Trump biased by the "journalist".
You either fell for this crappy example of fake news, or you are a vulture feasting on the dead man and the pain of his family to push your reprehensible political agenda.

That would be indefensible, and frick anyone who would stoop to those immoral and evil levels.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:46 pm to
Teleprompter or not, the guy could give a speech.
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2006 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

I’d like to think I don’t need to preface anything with an “even though I can’t stand the president,” but this seems like a cheap political shot. It was honestly probably more along the lines of “your husband went bravely into this situation. He knew what he signed up for and did it anyway.” I wouldn’t advise releasing these recorded calls on account of what the families suffer, but someone should clarify. I honestly won’t buy that he’s that callous or cynical.


agreed

terrible phrasing to a widow, but i believe his heart was in the right place. words not so much
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Aren't you tired of losing yet?

Losing what? I said the guy speaks poorly at times. That's the consensus of everyone for the most part. I said it was taken out of context. It was. I said the "he's right" defense will soon surface. And someone sure as hell did whne he quickly stated "is he wrong"?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

So, you're saying that people that sign up for a voluntary military duty don't understand that there is the possibility they may be placed in harm's way?

Goddamn, there's nothing you won't attempt to defend.
This attempt is sadder than most
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:53 pm to
This is one of many reasons I think Trump is poorly suited for the Presidency.

I don't think he cares about this stuff (the lives of others), nor does he have the ability to properly convey the kindness and compassion you'd like to see from a leader in that situation.

But, I don't think he was crass or rude. I just don't think he has the ability to come across as very genuine in a situation like that. If the Dem congresswoman got the widow's comments wrong, I hope she gets crucified (she won't).
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:54 pm to
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Well, I'm not going to rely on the secondhand word of the democrat representative speaking for the widow.


It is beyond sad that this wasn’t pointed out until the middle of the second page.
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:54 pm to
My issue with it is it’s the specific phrase you hear from from far left idiots (who I can’t stand) to diminish police and members of the military killed in the line of duty.

It’s the exact phrase you don’t use, because everyone knows it means you don’t give a shite, and it’s used almost exclusively to let someone know you don’t give a shite.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146377 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:56 pm to
Spare us the feigned outrage. This sounds political and out of context. The quote is from the family member and her politics (I would bet good money) are tainted a certain way. So it is a cheap gotcha.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

The quote is from the family member


No it isn’t
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