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Trump Signals that Dreamers can stay, will work something out for some illegals
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:53 am
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Glad to see Trump coming around to a common sense, humane position. It only make sense to let those brought here as children stay. This is what I've been saying and has been one of my biggest problems with Trump. I've been called every name in the book by posters on this board. Apparently, I've been the one promoting Trump's actual position. Who knew?
But, it makes sense. Letting them stay, work, go to school, and be productive rather than instituting costly deportation proceedings to send kids back to countries they do not now is really the only possible solution.
Good for Trump. I might end up supporting him yet.
#maga
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"I want Dreamers for our children also. We’re going to work something out. On a humanitarian basis it’s a very tough situation. We’re going to work something out that’s going to make people happy and proud. But that’s a very tough situation."
By way of further explanation, Trump stated:
"They got brought here at a very young age, they’ve worked here, they’ve gone to school here. Some were good students. Some have wonderful jobs. And they’re in never-never land because they don’t know what’s going to happen."
Glad to see Trump coming around to a common sense, humane position. It only make sense to let those brought here as children stay. This is what I've been saying and has been one of my biggest problems with Trump. I've been called every name in the book by posters on this board. Apparently, I've been the one promoting Trump's actual position. Who knew?
But, it makes sense. Letting them stay, work, go to school, and be productive rather than instituting costly deportation proceedings to send kids back to countries they do not now is really the only possible solution.
Good for Trump. I might end up supporting him yet.
#maga
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:54 am
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:55 am to AlaTiger
Touchback Immigration has been Trump's position since they very beginning
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:56 am to AlaTiger
Trump has never said he's going to deport "EVERYBODY". It's a liberal fabrication
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:02 am to joshnorris14
No it hasn't.
Sure, he has implied it in hushed tones if you listened very carefully and then got the crowds rocking with "they have to go!"
His whole campaign on this issue was a BIG LIE and then he would give statements here and there that he would work things out. So, sure, you can pull up quotes. I saw them too. but anyone who pretends that his position here was conciliatory or anything like what he said in this interview OVERALL is just being deceitful.
You know this. You scrambling and pretending that nothing is different is kind of sad and pathetic, actually.
Sure, he has implied it in hushed tones if you listened very carefully and then got the crowds rocking with "they have to go!"
His whole campaign on this issue was a BIG LIE and then he would give statements here and there that he would work things out. So, sure, you can pull up quotes. I saw them too. but anyone who pretends that his position here was conciliatory or anything like what he said in this interview OVERALL is just being deceitful.
You know this. You scrambling and pretending that nothing is different is kind of sad and pathetic, actually.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:05 am to AlaTiger
I'm happy with deporting criminals and evaluating the rest on a case by case basis (basically try to weed out the non-contributors and freeloaders). The main issue is building a "wall" (literally or figuratively) to stop illegals from entering in the future.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:06 am to AlaTiger
Guess that kills the "HE IS LITERALLY HITLERRRRRRR" argument 
Hopefully he still deports the dreamers with criminal records though
Hopefully he still deports the dreamers with criminal records though
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:06 am to AlaTiger
So are you thrilled that he isn't deporting everyone or are you melting because you think he won by lying about whether he would deport everyone?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:07 am to AlaTiger
1. Humane deportation
2. Amnesty
3. Look the other way
One of these costs us the least money, and I'm not sure which, but whichever it is is the best choice.
2. Amnesty
3. Look the other way
One of these costs us the least money, and I'm not sure which, but whichever it is is the best choice.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:07 am to AlaTiger
quote:
Glad to see Trump coming around to a common sense, humane position.
And the carpet gets yanked from under right wingers yet again, funny.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to Lakeboy7
quote:Funny you think he said every single illegal.
And the carpet gets yanked from under right wingers yet again, funny.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:10 am to Lakeboy7
That's so nice of you to care about the right wingers. Does it still hurt that Trump won?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:12 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
So are you thrilled that he isn't deporting everyone or are you melting because you think he won by lying about whether he would deport everyone?
I'm thrilled he isn't deporting everyone.
Why would I be melting? How am I melting?
What the heck?
Of course he lied. He was lying the whole time. I didn't know for sure he was lying because, well, why should I not take him at his word? I disagreed with him very much on this and other issues. But, if he does the right thing, I'll support him. Good for him.
I did not vote for Hillary. She was going to be a complete disaster. So, however Trump does well, it is all a bonus to me. I'm happy if he does this. Why would I melt.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:13 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Does it still hurt that Trump won?
I actually feel energized, elections have consequences ya know.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:13 am to ballscaster
Why can't you just enforce the law as written as the ability presents itself?
Combine that with border security and fines for hiring illegals and you are on to something.
Follow that with, register as an illegal by x date or risk never gaining access to the US legally again.
The final blow is that if you register by x date you have a path to citizenship that includes all rights. If you miss that deadline there may be a way to retain working and living in the US but never getting the full rights of citizenship. You are forever a guest worker that pays taxes but doesn't get refunds.
Something like that should be a good compromise, no?
Far right: Deportation force
Far left: Give them 3 already completed ballots in elections
We can meet in the middle somewhere.
Combine that with border security and fines for hiring illegals and you are on to something.
Follow that with, register as an illegal by x date or risk never gaining access to the US legally again.
The final blow is that if you register by x date you have a path to citizenship that includes all rights. If you miss that deadline there may be a way to retain working and living in the US but never getting the full rights of citizenship. You are forever a guest worker that pays taxes but doesn't get refunds.
Something like that should be a good compromise, no?
Far right: Deportation force
Far left: Give them 3 already completed ballots in elections
We can meet in the middle somewhere.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:14 am to Jbird
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Funny you think he said every single illegal.
Funny that you think he didn't. He said it over and over again. He didn't know what he was talking about though and has probably since learned that it is much more complicated than he thought.
Apparently, he was always talking about the criminals. No one disagrees with that. But, he had to say "all illegals" to get the support and differentiate himself from Rubio and Bush.
He basically has the same plan as the Gang of 8 now. But, he couldn't get elected with that. He lied. But, whatever.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:15 am to AlaTiger
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Sure, he has implied it in hushed tones if you listened very carefully and then got the crowds rocking with "they have to go!"
But he is Hitler. Liberals have said it over and over. Are you implying that majority of liberals and those that are far right aren't able to have critical thinking and realize how to understand what he says? I have known this for a long time.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:15 am to AlaTiger
Gee I don't remember that.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:17 am to AlaTiger
Trump is not going to break up a family and let's all remember his first statement about illegals ending with "some of them are good people." The only concern I have is those that did have kids here should face a penalty. Now what penalty could or should be is a matter of debate but it has to be one that discourages future illegal immigration.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:17 am to roadGator
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We can meet in the middle somewhere.
Which is what I was advocating for the other day and you were disagreeing with me over and over again.
Now that Trump is saying what I was saying, you're wanting to compromise.
Okay. Fair enough. There's room on the Trump Immigration Train. I'll allow it.
Sorry. I couldn't resist. You seem like a good guy, roadGator. I don't think we actually disagree that much. I want a secure border, enforcement of law, deportation for criminal illegals, etc. I just want there to be room for mercy to be extended where appropriate.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:18 am to Jbird
I'm waiting for actual quotes, in context 
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