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lol that mindset is what killed JFK
Ya think?
The CIA is so fricked-up and infiltrated with far left wing progressive socialists and communists these days I seriously doubt they could pull off the assassination of a third world cartel drug kingpin much less a sitting POTUS.
The CIA needs to have its house cleaned of the bleeding heart ivy league intellectual elitists who have thrown the agency out of balance ... Langley has been diluted over the past twenty years. True patriots and men of honor with this country's best interests are no longer running the show.
Trump needs to get it back on track and serving the purpose they were designed to serve.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Pettifogger on 12/9/16 at 10:24 pm to HempHead
You're claiming career service folks who probably devote considerably more time to their jobs than other federal employees and who sacrifice their families, other relationships, more valuable private sector positions, etc. in service to their country are the "worst"?
Yeah, that's fricking stupid.
Yeah, that's fricking stupid.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Pettifogger on 12/9/16 at 10:24 pm to scrooster
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The CIA is so fricked-up and infiltrated with far left wing progressive socialists and communists these days I seriously doubt they could pull off the assassination of a third world cartel drug kingpin much less a sitting POTUS.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by skrayper on 12/9/16 at 10:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
TECHNICALLY, the Bush administration said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Also, it was the 12th CLOSEST election based on EC percentages. Heck, Obama won both of his by bigger margins.
Also, it was the 12th CLOSEST election based on EC percentages. Heck, Obama won both of his by bigger margins.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by GFaceKillah on 12/9/16 at 10:27 pm to scrooster
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The CIA is so fricked-up and infiltrated with far left wing progressive socialists and communists these days I seriously doubt they could pull off the assassination of a third world cartel drug kingpin much less a sitting POTUS.
The CIA needs to have its house cleaned of the bleeding heart ivy league intellectual elitists who have thrown the agency out of balance ... Langley has been diluted over the past twenty years. True patriots and men of honor with this country's best interests are no longer running the show.
Where are you getting this information??
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Pettifogger on 12/9/16 at 10:28 pm to GFaceKillah
It's amazing to watch people who have absolutely no fricking clue what they're talking about make claims with such confidence.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by skrayper on 12/9/16 at 10:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Ummmm, our base didn't dole out 7 MILLION dollars to a jewish scam artist green party candidate because we thought voting machines not even connected to the internet were hacked by russia
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jewish
WTF does THAT have to do with any other part of the statement?
That just indicates you're bigoted.
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The CIA is so fricked-up and infiltrated with far left wing progressive socialists and communists these days I seriously doubt they could pull off the assassination of a third world cartel drug kingpin much less a sitting POTUS.
The CIA needs to have its house cleaned of the bleeding heart ivy league intellectual elitists who have thrown the agency out of balance ... Langley has been diluted over the past twenty years. True patriots and men of honor with this country's best interests are no longer running the show.
Trump needs to get it back on track and serving the purpose they were designed to serve.
Holy shite this is beautiful. Amazing.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by HempHead on 12/9/16 at 10:31 pm to Pettifogger
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You're claiming career service folks who probably devote considerably more time to their jobs than other federal employees and who sacrifice their families, other relationships, more valuable private sector positions, etc. in service to their country are the "worst"?
No. I'm claiming that many of the goals and operations that the CIA have pursued over the years are the worst. I have made no claims about the personal character or personal veracity of individual agents. I simply view the CIA as a corrupt organization that operates independent of American interests, but instead acts in the interest of the agency.
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Yeah, that's fricking stupid.
I'm a stupid man, so it ought not to surprise you.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by ChexMix on 12/9/16 at 10:35 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:Would "suck that Trump dick liberals!" been more appropriate for you?
Wow, that's a very weak response. I expected more from camp Trump.
Now run along to your safe space and go play with your coloring books and playdough
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re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Pettifogger on 12/9/16 at 10:36 pm to HempHead
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No. I'm claiming that many of the goals and operations that the CIA have pursued over the years are the worst. I have made no claims about the personal character or personal veracity of individual agents. I simply view the CIA as a corrupt organization that operates independent of American interests, but instead acts in the interest of the agency.
First, the amount of activity by the US IC that constitutes a departure from the respective administrations controlling it is miniscule. Blame the decision makers first and foremost.
Second, questioning an organization build on deception is fine. But it's senseless to ignore the absolutely unbelievable effort CIA officers have made in the past 2 decades in efforts to protect citizens, troops and American interests. Misguided at times? Certainly. But that can very rarely be blamed predominately on CIA or any intelligence agency in isolation.
I don't think you're stupid. But plenty of people ignore that behind the letters there are thousands of folks who have put their families, careers and sometimes lives on the line to do what the country has asked them to do.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by scrooster on 12/9/16 at 10:42 pm to GFaceKillah
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Where are you getting this information??
Doesn't matter ... let's just say some blue badge wearing friends of mine.
Regardless - it's a well known fact of the matter. The agency is in comparative disarray these days ... Obama and his people made it far worse than it has ever been.
Hell, the irony, almost funny, part of this is that Obama blames all of his foreign policy failures on them with his, "it wasn't on my intelligence radar" bravo sierra excuses.
The CIA has become a bloated reflection of the "yes man" Obama administration we've been governed under for the past eight years.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by HempHead on 12/9/16 at 10:44 pm to Pettifogger
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First, the amount of activity by the US IC that constitutes a departure from the respective administrations controlling it is miniscule. Blame the decision makers first and foremost.
I want this to be true. Perhaps I'm just buying the worst information bandied about. But I've read many, many reports of some reeeeaaaal shady shite they've been involved in, particularly re: narcotics and Western Hemisphere governance. I'm more than willing to be proven a fool for believing what I've read, but so far no apologetics exist.
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But it's senseless to ignore the absolutely unbelievable effort CIA officers have made in the past 2 decades in efforts to protect citizens, troops and American interests. Misguided at times? Certainly. But that can very rarely be blamed predominately on CIA or any intelligence agency in isolation.
As I said, I do not denigrate the contributions of rank and file clandestine officers or even office workers. I have little doubt that >95% of CIA operatives/employees only do their work because they believe it to be the best way to preserve American values and power.
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I don't think you're stupid. But plenty of people ignore that behind the letters there are thousands of folks who have put their families, careers and sometimes lives on the line to do what the country has asked them to do.
At the same time, just because someone joins a department with the best of intentions does not completely absolve or excuse what is done.
Please don't conflate my extreme skepticism and suspicion of alphabet soup agencies with a dislike for those who comprise their workforce.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by GFaceKillah on 12/9/16 at 10:45 pm to scrooster
Let's just say some blue badge wearing friends of mine said things are better than ever.
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TECHNICALLY, the Bush administration said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
There were ... at the time he said it.
Those WMDs are now showing up in Syria.
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Also, it was the 12th CLOSEST election based on EC percentages. Heck, Obama won both of his by bigger margins.
All of those wins were predicted ... Trump's was not and was more reminiscent of the Truman/Dewey election complete with the wrong headlines by a major publication.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by scrooster on 12/9/16 at 10:49 pm to GFaceKillah
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Let's just say some blue badge wearing friends of mine said things are better than ever.
Horse shite ... you have no clue what a blue badge even is you dumb fricking idiot and no blue badger in service right now, (tell me approximately how many there are you lying sack of shite) ... no blue badger in service right now is happy with how the agency is operating.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Jeff Boomhauer on 12/9/16 at 10:51 pm to bencoleman
Trump shows classic signs of small penis syndrome. If his skin was any thinner he would bleed out.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by HempHead on 12/9/16 at 10:53 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
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Trump shows classic signs of small penis syndrome. If his skin was any thinner he would bleed out.
If having small penis syndrome makes me President and a billionaire, sign me up for a fricking bris.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by Pettifogger on 12/9/16 at 10:54 pm to HempHead
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I want this to be true. Perhaps I'm just buying the worst information bandied about. But I've read many, many reports of some reeeeaaaal shady shite they've been involved in, particularly re: narcotics and Western Hemisphere governance. I'm more than willing to be proven a fool for believing what I've read, but so far no apologetics exist.
There are very few ways for people in the intelligence community to disprove or discredit this type of stuff. But I don't object to the concept that our intelligence community has been and is involved in questionable activity relating to foreign intervention (or narcotics, weapon sales, etc).
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At the same time, just because someone joins a department with the best of intentions does not completely absolve or excuse what is done.
Please don't conflate my extreme skepticism and suspicion of alphabet soup agencies with a dislike for those who comprise their workforce.
I get it. The intelligence community is a particularly tough subject for folks who share my/our ideals (if you lean libertarian). Moreover, holding individuals accountable for complying with a group that is heavily dependent on secrecy and internal loyalty presents a host of other issues/challenges.
From what I know, all I can say is that there are a lot of people who aren't far from myself and probably you in ideology, and who are conscious of the stuff we're discussing and take it very seriously. If we really want to attack the nebulous secrecy of the intelligence community, and the lawlessness that does exist and avoids accountability, that'll need to be expanded far beyond CIA, particularly in this age of the DNI.
re: Trump responds to baseless CIA report which claims russia helped winPosted by scrooster on 12/9/16 at 10:58 pm to Pettifogger
We're in total agreement there.
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