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Trump Effect? Household Income Hits 15-Year High

Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:03 am
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For eight years, President Obama endlessly talked about "middle class" economics. All the while, middle-class family incomes were stagnant. Now they are on the rise. Could Trumponomics be the reason?

In April, real median household income reached $59,361, according to the latest report from Sentier Research. That's up 2% since January, and is as high as it's been since February 2002. Expressed as an index, median household income was 100.9 in April, which is the first time this index has topped 100 since December 2008.

By comparison, this index was also lower when Obama left office than when he came in — it stood at 99.2 in January 2009, and was 98.9 in January 2017. It was just 1.7% higher than when the recession ended in June 2009. Last year, incomes barely budged, Sentier data show.

Another way to look at it: median income has climbed faster in President Trump's first three months in office than it did during 7-1/2 years of Obama's economic "recovery."


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Well, we know that Trump's presidency, and the promise of a sharp turn away from the growth-suffocating policies of the past eight years, led to an immediate surge in optimism among businesses and consumers. It's possible that this has made businesses more willing to hire workers, and pay them more, than they otherwise would have. Plus, the stock market has responded with gusto to Trump.


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This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:05 am to
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median income has climbed faster in President Trump's first three months in office than it did during 7-1/2 years of Obama's economic "recovery."


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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:06 am to
Why is household income at an all time high?
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...we know that Trump's presidency, and the promise of a sharp turn away from the growth-suffocating policies of the past eight years, led to an immediate surge in optimism among businesses and consumers. It's possible that this has made businesses more willing to hire workers, and pay them more, than they otherwise would have. Plus, the stock market has responded with gusto to Trump.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:08 am to
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Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:09 am to
Why do you hate Seth Rich's family so much? Why are you putting them through this?

They lost their son, they don't need people on the internet spreading positive news about Trump.

You sick bastard
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17424 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:18 am to
This was the main reason that I voted for Trump
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:25 am to
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This was the main reason that I voted for Trump




This is what happens when the supply of labor is decreased (which it certainly has). Companies are forced to pay more.

This is econ 101.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5844 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:28 am to
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No doubt Democrats will interpret these recent gains in income as either a blip to be ignored, or as a sign that the economy has finally overcome the lingering effects of the terrible Bush recession. The former is certainly possible, since three month's worth of data isn't much to go on


so you mean to tell me he did this in under 6 months? miracle i tell you miracle.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4390 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:31 am to
Yup. And pressure to raise wages started before the election. These gains are great but they would have happened under Clinton too. People assign too much blame/credit to the President for economic news.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:32 am to
I don't think it's possible to better cherry-pick data to fit a narrative. Great job, Investor's Business Daily.
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For eight years, President Obama endlessly talked about "middle class" economics. All the while, middle-class family incomes were stagnant.
Wow. If you look at the actual numbers, "stagnant" is the last word to describe it.
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By comparison, this index was also lower when Obama left office than when he came in — it stood at 99.2 in January 2009, and was 98.9 in January 2017. It was just 1.7% higher than when the recession ended in June 2009.
Nice, let's use the technical "end" of the recession as a marker and apply it to a lagging indicator, without pointing out that this HII barely dropped throughout the recession. Let's also not point out how strongly the HII rebounded, with a lag time behind the recession's "end" that was just about as long as the lag time it took for the HII to drop after the "start" of the recession.
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Another way to look at it: median income has climbed faster in President Trump's first three months in office than it did during 7-1/2 years of Obama's economic "recovery."
Or, in other words, "an extremely biased and meaningless way to look at it".



Trump's policies may or may not be good for the economy and household income, but this data does nothing to tell us one way or another.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 9:38 am to
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so you mean to tell me he did this in under 6 months? miracle i tell you miracle.




Not really. At a granular level it's quite simple. Corporate managers and small business owners are human beings and have human emotions. If they are under the impression that the economic environment is going to be favorable to them in the short or medium term future that sentiment can and does drive them to proceed with projects/expansions/capital improvements, etc.

Now this is the specific dynamic:

Under Obama...the direction of more taxes and regulation were assured.

Under Trump...the direction of less taxes and regulation are assured.

The direction of less taxes and regulation are always good for business. Couple that with a lower supply of labor due to the administration enforcing immigration law you have the confluence of two economic forces that are pushing household incomes up.
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