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re: Trump Campaign pushed Russian propaganda

Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:42 pm to
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when does the genocide that you claim is coming, start?


You keep posting this tripe. And I’m sure you will repeat it with a link to where I said nothing of the sort. Sure, you’ll focus on a few key words that in your meager mind appears to justify this accusation, but nowhere did I ever say this.


And in you are just simply trying to besmirch me for all to see, don’t worry. 90% of the regular circle-jerks hate me already, and that’s like a badge of honor in this place.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:44 pm to
Please don't quit posting. Your melt downs are some of the best.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48058 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:46 pm to
I don't hate you. I doubt many here do. You are one of the most entertaining posters here.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56361 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:47 pm to
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There's delusional, then there's this...



so true

They can't help themselves. It's core to their being.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:50 pm to
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How would Trump firing Comey obstruct non-FBI investigations? That makes no sense.


What if it is revealed that a grand jury had already been convened, and the FBI was using subpoena power to gather info/interview witnesses.

Does that not conclude obstruction of justice if the head of the FBI is fired while doing his job? And the person firing explicitly says ‘I fired him for going after Flynn and pursuing this Russian meddling case’?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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What if it is revealed that a grand jury had already been convened, and the FBI was using subpoena power to gather info/interview witnesses.



And what if a frog had wings?


That wasn't the case, but then you already know that.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48058 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
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What if it is revealed that a grand jury had already been convened, and the FBI was using subpoena power to gather info/interview witnesses.


That isn't how it works. The FBI does not convene grand juries. They are purely an investigative body (which is why their investigations are not considered "procedures"). Grand juries would be convened by the US Attorney and they have the subpoena power.

So no. Firing the head of the investigative body is not obstruction. It would in no way hamper the subpoena power of a grand jury.

Any other hypotheticals or do you want to admit you were ignorant on this one and you appreciate the information?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
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EthanL


If abject stupidity was a virtue, you'd already have your ticket punched to heaven.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:16 pm to
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EthanL
are you having a stroke or something? Do you smell toast?
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:30 pm to
have a downvote and an up your arse vote.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:34 pm to
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have a downvote and an up your arse vote


You are so clever!!

wow!
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Grand juries would be convened by the US Attorney and they have the subpoena power.


So you really don’t know (and neither do I) if a grand jury was convened in 2016 into Russian meddling, and if Comey’s investigation was part of that convening. Something telling that the interim FBI Director said: “Comey’s firing will in no way hamper this investigation.”

So I concede you are correct. I said as much that I am ignorant of the code. But the fact remains, if Trump did fire Comey, in an attempt to derail the investigation, and if Comey’s investigation into all things Russian has been going since ‘16 at the behest of a grand jury convened by a, let’s say, Loretta Lynch, then this was definitely an attempt at obstruction.

Trump just didn’t know it
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48058 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:07 pm to
Again. That isn't how it works. Clearly your mind is made up and no amount of information will change what you have already decided. What you are describing cannot and did not happen. It isn't obstruction. I could point you to more case law and more precedent. You won't care.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48839 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:13 pm to
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Trump just didn’t know it


Then no intent, lets move on
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:56 pm to
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So no jail time for current administration officials sadly.

Well of course not. They pushed the Russian collusion so that the DIMs and the MSM would bite hard, And now that Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein and McCabe have been outed having covered up Hillary's uranium sweetheart deal, Trump can take them down with no opposition


Because its Russia after all
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