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Trump = Yeb, Rubio, et al

Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:51 am
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:51 am
Let's face it: Trump has done absolutely nothing that Yeb or Rubio wouldn't have done had they won the election. He's governing like a neocon. While I expect lots of hand waving and name calling, I'd appreciate measured and thoughtful responses from Trump voters on this point. If you can prove me wrong, I'll admit it. I didn't vote for any Republican (or Democrat) but I had high hopes when Trump was elected. I've yet to see any significant changes in the status quo.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 6:53 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:54 am to
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 6:58 am to
Trump was too good to be true. They are turning him into a neocon
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:29 am to
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Let's face it: Trump has done absolutely nothing that Yeb or Rubio wouldn't have done had they won the election. He's governing like a neocon

Trump is the only one that would have dumped TPP, driven illegal immigration down & provided for more Border Patrols.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:30 am to
Assad and Kim are the ones puffing up. If he did nothing, you'd complain that he was being naive in the face of imminent nuclear war.

How about you wait for war before bitching about one we are not in?
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:46 am to
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Trump is the only one that would have dumped TPP, driven illegal immigration down & provided for more Border Patrols.



I agree about TPP; I'm not so sure about illegal immigration. I don't think the neocons even support that.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:47 am to
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Assad and Kim are the ones puffing up. If he did nothing, you'd complain that he was being naive in the face of imminent nuclear war. 

How about you wait for war before bitching about one we are not in?


They're doing what they've always done. Trump is the only one that has done a 180 here.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:53 am to
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I didn't vote for any Republican (or Democrat)


Did you vote for Gary?
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 7:55 am to
Darrell Castle
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:02 am to
Nah. Rubio's healthcare plan would have been better.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 8:03 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:08 am to
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I agree about TPP; I'm not so sure about illegal immigration. I don't think the neocons even support that.

No one before Trump really did anything about illegal immigration.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:14 am to
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No one before Trump really did anything about illegal immigration.


Sure they did. Remember W after 9/11? Even Obama was deporting illegals at a record pace when he became President.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:15 am to
Honest ted told you about his New York values
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:29 am to
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They're doing what they've always done. Trump is the only one that has done a 180 here.


Obama was roundly criticized by republicans for not doing exactly what Trump just did. Now those same republicans are bitching about trump doing it.

Again, you would be bitching either way.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:35 am to
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Again, you would be bitching either way.


Wrong. I appreciated Trump's more non-interventionist stances he had before he became President.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24484 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:41 am to
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Assad and Kim are the ones puffing up. If he did nothing, you'd complain that he was being naive in the face of imminent nuclear war.



Obama does nothing = criticized for being a pussy

Trump does something = criticized for being a warmonger


In other words, people will bitch about anything and everything. Unfortunately we live in a world where screaming in protest is trendy, and the group mentality of it exacerbates it
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:43 am to
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Wrong. I appreciated Trump's more non-interventionist stances he had before he became President.


Why are you frickers so bipolar?

First, we are not at war.
Second, trump is not, and was never an isolationist. Syria was an air strike and nothing more. You can cry as if there are boots in the ground, but they'd be wasted tears.

Kim has nukes abd is being more assholish than ever. You can't sit on your hands and do nothing about that. It appears Trump has brought China to the table on NK which is an enormous step in the right direction.

Instead of bitching, step back and appreciate that the potus, in one fell swoop, has Syria, Russia, and NK at bay and China moving 150k Troops to the NK border while ceasing its coal trade to America's benefit.

You're welcome.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:44 am to
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Darrell Castle


You voted for an ambulance chaser.

Gotcha.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:01 am to
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Even Obama was deporting illegals at a record pace when he became President.


Border Patrol agents turned illegals around at the border & Obama put it in deported column; not the same as actually finding someone in Milwaukee and sending them back to Mexico.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:09 am to
Running list of campaign promises that Trump has upheld

It's been 60 days and Trump has already delivered on many of the things he campaigned on. I'm sorry that your dumb arse didn't like one surgical strike (which he fully indicated he'd do when he was running) but that doesn't erase the fact that he's been pretty on point with his message thus far. To say that neocons would've delivered as much as Trump so far or in a similar fashion to Trump is idiotic.
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