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re: Today in history: The Goliad Massacre

Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:23 pm to
Texas declared independence in 1836 and operated as a republic until officially annexed by the US in 1946. I think the author just got dates mixed up or made a typo, even though Mexico did not recognize Texas as an independent republic after Texas won the war against them.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Weren't they a territory before being a state?


Texas was an independent nation from 1836-1845.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Weren't they a territory before being a state?


They were an independent republic from 1836 to1845, when they became a state.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Obama would be quick to remind you of the Crusades


Horrible, evil, yuge Christian campaign... crusades:


Now let's look at the battles fought between Islam and Christianity due to Muslim aggression/expansion:

This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:33 pm to
The 2005 Alamo movie was pretty dreadful. The plot had little dramatic drive or focus. Five major characters had significant screen time, Crockett, Houston, Travis, Bowie and Santa Anna. The assault on the Alamo was very realistic but of course with the predictable ending. The movie continued on until the defeat of the Mexicans at San Jacinto. Like the Wayne movie it was a commercial failure.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Warning for today!
Look what happened to the Mexican province of Texas with unvetted, uncontrolled, illegal aliens pouring over their unprotected border!
Just saying.

Well done my man - well done indeed =
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:38 pm to
Billy Bob Thornton as Davy Crockett.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:43 pm to


Cool image of the Alamo showing the palisade defended by Crockett, the Tennesseans and others. One thing the Alamo movie did get right was that this Mexican column attacking from the southeast was driven off. The Mexicans swarmed over the north wall.



Defense of the palisade as imagined in the Wayne movie. John Wayne is 3rd from the left.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:49 pm to
The defenders of the Alamo were not a bunch of dirt farmers. Many were well to do and well known back east, including of course Crockett. The massacre at the Alamo was a senstation back in New York City.



Still a great resource on the Alamo fight. By Walter Lord



Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Grew up round there and went to school in Goliad through 5th grade. Gotta stop at LaBahia also.


Took my Cub Scout Pack there... It was AWESOME!! They loved it!
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
768 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:02 pm to
I was actually talking about the restaurant but yeah the fort is pretty cool. We use to have little league parties there.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79605 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
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John Wayne is 3rd from the left.


Holding that musket like a Winchester.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:13 pm to
Does not hold a candle to the Bowling Green Massacre
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:18 pm to
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The Mexicans swarmed over the north wall.


Need to build a better wall.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:27 pm to
One of the more moving things I've seen is when William Travis' "Victory or Death" letter being displayed in the Alamo, the first time it had returned since he sent it before his death in 1836.

This is some very, very stirring stuff. Travis "Victory or Death" letter returns to Alamo in 2013 after he sent it 177 years before

To the People of Texas & all Americans in the world—

Fellow citizens & compatriots—

I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna—I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man—The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken—I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls—I shall never surrender or retreat

Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & every thing dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch—The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days.

If this call is neglected, I am deter mined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country — Victory or Death

William Barret Travis

LINK
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8525 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 8:27 pm to
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Texas history and Louisiana history both are very interesting and fun to learn.


Texas and the Southwest? Yes, very interesting.

Louisiana? Nah.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:41 pm to
Marty Robbins is integral to any celebration of the Alamo and the fight for Texas independence.


Ballad of the Alamo

Of course - there would be no Texas without Tennesseans.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:47 pm to
Remember the Alamo, and remember Goliad
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:55 pm to
Mexico at first encouraged immigration to the thinly populated northern orovince.



Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:01 pm to
Crockett was captured alive and tried to talk his way out of it, claiming he was at the Alamo by happenstance.

Arguably there would be no Texas without Louisiana. Sam Houston's army at San Jacinto was led by officers and NCOs from the US 2nd Infantry Regiment based across the Sabine River at Fort Jesup, who were allowed to temporarily "resign" and fight in Texas.
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