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Tin Foil Hats Engage: Artificial Intelligence and the Global Elites

Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:29 pm
So this may sound nuttier than squirrel shite but we are probably living in a computer simulation anyway so who gives a damn.

I think that at the current moment, the central focus of global elites is artificial intelligence. I think that they are focused on developing ASI (artificial super intelligence; a machine capable of learning as well as as recursively improving the way it learns; as it gets smarter, it gets better at getting smarter.) Once AI is good enough, the Earth will be able sustain high production rates with computers responsible for 90% (100% for ASI) of that production. For example, I saw a video showing how autonomous farm equipment could completely automate food production without any human input and already is to a certain extent.

Once the AI is good enough, it's not only feasible but possibly inevitable that with enough data input (Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is currently offering free genome mapping for humans) it could crack the genetic code as well as the mechanism to effectively manipulate the code (nanobots) . The computer could literally cure every disease known to man including aging, and even let us improve things like strength, speed, and appearance with genetic manipulation.

And here's where the conspiracy really starts: I believe once we are at that point, the elites will create a global catastrophe (my belief is it will be an engineered virus of some kind) to wipe out large segments of the populations, most likely the segments that present the greatest threat. With the AI systems that would only obey the commands of the designated elites, they would then be able to seize unlimited amounts of power and basically become a small ruling class of demigods augmented with the ASI technology only they would be in control of.

And here's where I get spiritual. I think that the AI will be the antichrist, the beast made of metal, that the Book of Revelation refers to. The mark on the hands and forehead will be a microchip or internet interfacing device, and the final conflict of good and evil that will be the end of humanity as we know it is really between humans as we exist now and our integration with technology (either we evolve to something more or kill ourselves off: either way, humanity will no longer exist.)

So let's get heavy poliboard.

TL;DR
1.)Elites will invent AI capable of total manipulation of genetic code through use of nanobots
2.)Wipe out a large segment of the population since no longer necessary and they just consume resources
3.)Rule over the remnants of humanity with total power.




Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:38 pm to
I don't think AI will BE the Antichrist.

But something is going to have to tell whether a person has the real Mark, or a cheap tattoo imitation to try to pass themselves off. (And yes I do believe that the Mark is a physical one--we already have the ability to microchip pets, going to humans isn't that much of a step.) AI could easily take that role.
Posted by StarSaint
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:43 pm to
Read Ray Kurweil's "Age of spirtual machines" and "the singularity is near"
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:43 pm to
So you think it will be an actual human incarnation of the devil? I think an AI capable of plugging humans into a matrix type simulation with unlimited pleasure would be a much more accurate incarnation of absolute evil, that is rejecting the world beyond ourselves and giving into total base desires.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:46 pm to
Some of the inspiration for this post is from bits and pieces of Ray's work. However, I don't like some of his predictions for the reason that they seem to come from his self-interest. For example, he thinks singularity by 2035, which low and behold would be about the longest he could possibly live given average lifespans today, whereas I think that this will be the end of the century level stuff at the earliest, at least if we are referring to super intelligence and not just really good AI.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:48 pm to
I'm a blue pill fan myself...

Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:50 pm to
If you're insinuating I'm crazy a picture of quetiapine would be more appropriate than a muscle relaxer.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:52 pm to
Most likely the WWW is the mark. The end game is that humans will have the WWW embedded into them.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:55 pm to
If the Elites want to 'rule' the world, what fun is it if there are no humans to rule over ? Isn't the point to rule over others like yourself ?
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:55 pm to
Good article from Paul Allen, I remember you mentioning the complexity break before and I tend to agree with it. However, I think what's important is that with a long enough time frame, provided humans don't blow themselves up, these advances are inevitable. And even if we accept the premise that truly self-aware or highly intelligent AI is not possible given some kind of physical limitations we don't yet know, it is absolutely possible for AI to get good enough to be in charge of almost all production (humans will be necessary for a while) and genetic code manipulation. I was watching a documentary that showed researchers mapping the genome of rats, and it's just amazing how perfect genetic information is for computers. They are basically biological bits and bites with only 2 possible combinations per spot on the strand (AT, CG) and 64 possible triplets (4x4x4) of which there are some redundancies (about 20 possible peptides).
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:56 pm to
If an AI is capable of rewriting its own code there's nothing keeping it in thrall to humans.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

If you're insinuating I'm crazy



I was just making a joke on the Matrix blue-pill meme of deciding to stay in the Matrix of pleasure. And benzos are also an anti-anxiety drug, which is what I imagine the Blue Pill would be like.

I'm sorry if all this Matrix stuff went over your head, but your OP seemed to follow their story line.

But congratulations on your awesome ability to identify a pill from a picture - in spite of your mental illness.
Posted by Big_Slim
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

If the Elites want to 'rule' the world, what fun is it if there are no humans to rule over ? Isn't the point to rule over others like yourself ?


Oh I think they will absolutely keep some of us around for exactly that reason. There is no point of power if you have no one to exert it over, and humans will still be necessary in the production process for quite sometime. However, all those guys are nutty over sustainability and consumption levels, and I could easily see them wanting to reduce population size to a level they deem more sustainable.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I was just making a joke on the Matrix blue-pill meme of deciding to stay in the Matrix of pleasure. And benzos are also an anti-anxiety drug, which is what I imagine the Blue Pill would be like.



Yeah I picked up on that; for a guy that talks about AI and computer simulations you think I haven't seen that movie 20 times. Thought it was such an obvious cultural reference it wasn't worth addressing but whatever makes you feel smart I guess. Thought there was double entendre with the choice of pill but I see I overestimated you.
Posted by ccomeaux
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Oh I think they will absolutely keep some of us around for exactly that reason. There is no point of power if you have no one to exert it over, and humans will still be necessary in the production process for quite sometime. However, all those guys are nutty over sustainability and consumption levels, and I could easily see them wanting to reduce population size to a level they deem more sustainable.


Agreed. Didn't want to write that much.
I'm not sure these 'elites' have fully vetted their goals is my point. To further the conspiracy, what makes these boobs think the bots won't turn on them ?
AI = Pas Bon.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

If an AI is capable of rewriting its own code there's nothing keeping it in thrall to humans.


This is actually something they are extremely worried about. I have no idea how this would work and frankly no one does. Maybe they could make certain core functions of the code "unalterable" by making sure the machine has no motivation to change it. That is of course the computer would be smart enough to change it, but if we program it with the right core function it wouldn't have the motivation to even try. We don't even know if consciousness is inevitable with increases in intelligence.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:13 pm to
That's the thing...Watson won but it had no idea that it did. Why would the machine be motivated to rebel? Can't get too into it at the moment, but good posts.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 1:22 pm to
Gracias. I know it's a ton of conjecture, especially the spiritual aspect, but at the same time it's not impossible. Either way definitely one of the most interesting times to ever exist as a human.
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