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thoughts on turning off public utilities prior to a hurricane

Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:30 pm
What is the PT thoughts on local cities and private companies turning off utilities of residents to force evacuations.

We have several municipalities and private water/sewer companies turning off the water at the same time as the mandatory evacuation goes into effect. They are standing behind safety of their workers but it is clearly an effort to force evacuations. The water is being turned off 36-48 hours prior to hurricane reaching Savannah, Ga
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Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:33 pm to
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Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:34 pm to
A friend owned a house in NOLA during Katrina, and got a $3000 bill from the S&WB after the storm.

His house had been under rooftop-level water for quite a while, but there was a broken water line somewhere on the property.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:35 pm to
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Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:35 pm to
I don't agree with it to force evacuations.
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:37 pm to
I realize utilities will go down during a hurricane but a plan this far in advance seems to be an over reach. Utility workers should be in the top tier of critical workers in the area.
I work in the electrical world. We were told and given time off earlier in the week to get our house stuff in order so that we can provide assistance right up to the time to get out.
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:38 pm to
This is new to us on east coast. Is this something yall see in the gulf?
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:43 pm to
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Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:19 pm to
Someone confirm or deny my memory.

Didn't the N.O. pump operators shut down and evacuate their post before Katrina.

Worker safety was the reason.
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:20 am to
I think that was Jefferson, pumps in Nola were flooded so it didn't matter.
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:45 am to
I think workers in a private setting have a reasonable expectation for having their personal safety protected. I don't think it's fair to expect these people to put her lives on the line so folks can ride out a hurricane.

Obviously first responders/police/ gaurd/military don't enjoy those same expectations IMO.

It's a good thought provoking question.
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:49 am to
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Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:58 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:18 am to
if evacuation is ordered, workers have to leave.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:19 am to
Pre, it was Jefferson. Huge mistake.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:51 am to
quote:

thoughts on turning off public utilities prior to a hurricane
quote:

The water is being turned off 36-48 hours prior to hurricane reaching Savannah, Ga
At some point, overactive responses become dangerous in future preparation. NOAA is predicting 40-50mph winds in Savannah.

Also, how do they address healthcare, fire, police, etc who need to remain?
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 4:41 am
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:20 am to
Electricity I can certainly understand. Because when it is all said and done, the power will get restored that much faster because all they will have to repair/replace is transformers and fuses that got damaged by physical means as opposed to also having to deal with the ones that got damaged by electrical faults.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112409 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 8:57 am to
Scenario...

The city turns off my water and electricity. I light some candles. My dog knocks one over and the rug catches fire. I have no water to put it out. My house burns down because the hurricane turned left and there was no rain.

I'm suing the city. Their defense is that they were only trying to coerce me to evacuate for my own good.

I'm winning that case easily.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Their defense is that they were protecting the public infrastructure and you should not have burned your own house down.



FIFY
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:27 am to
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Their defense is that they were protecting the public infrastructure and you should not have burned your own house down.


That would lose in court. If it is legal for me to remain in my house and the city has turned off my electricity a reasonable person would use the alternative of candles.

Trying to coerce me to leave does not protect any public infrastructure.

The accident with the dog is not foreseeable and is caused by the arbitrary action of the city to deny me a service that I have already paid for. Try again.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 10:29 am
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