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CptBengal
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Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector

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The real “takers” in America are not poor people dependent on welfare, but the unproductive, rent-extracting rich


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You don’t have to be a Tea Party conservative to believe that the economy is threatened when there are too many “takers” and not enough “makers.” The “takers” who threaten the dynamism and fairness of industrial capitalism the most in the 21st century are not the welfare-dependent poor — the villains of Tea Party propaganda — but the rent-extracting, unproductive rich.


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Gnar Cat21
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
I don't really even understand what that's saying



People that own real estate are a drain on society?


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cwill
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
Did you even read the full article? This is why you can't be taken seriously.


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Did you even read the full article? This is why you can't be taken seriously.


I did. And those who own property or collect rent, fees for a service, or fees for use of a good are not a drain on society. In fact, they actually contribute to the economy.

To claim that they are a "drain" is insane. Regardless of what drivel you wish to believe....


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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
Salon;dr


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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
Not sure what the point of this article is. Someone buys a property and charges others rent to use it. He makes extra money to compensate for the extra risk an owner takes, not to mention upkeep and such.

Not sure why that is considered extractive. It's just providing services to renters and getting paid for it.


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CptBengal
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
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This is why you can't be taken seriously.



what cant be taken seriously?

What do you agree with in the article? It's basically bull shite...but tell me where it is right, please.


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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
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“Profits” from the sale of goods or services in a free market are different from “rents” extracted from the public by monopolists in various kinds. Unlike profits, rents tend to be based on recurrent fees rather than sales to ever-changing consumers. While productive capitalists — “industrialists,” to use the old-fashioned term — need to be active and entrepreneurial in order to keep ahead of the competition, “rentiers” (the term for people whose income comes from rents, rather than profits) can enjoy a perpetual stream of income even if they are completely passive.

holy shit

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In today’s rentier-friendly conservative ideology, somebody who makes payday loans at usurious interest rates, gouges businesses with high insurance rates, or gets paid tolls from a privatized toll road is as much a “maker” and an “entrepreneur” and a “capitalist” as someone who puts together a team of inventors, engineers, workers and investors to apply 3-D printing to printing replacement body parts.

i honestly don't even know how to respond to this b/c it's so stupid



CptBengal
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i honestly don't even know how to respond to this b/c it's so stupid


want to really be afraid....

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Read some of the comments. these people vote. We're doomed.


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doubleb
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
So if rentiers don't rent to people, where do these people live?

So if developers don't build rental properties how does this help people in the construction business or who work in the construction business?

The article is hard to follow.


CptBengal
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The article is hard to follow.
it's progressive social utopia bull shite.

i.e., "It's wrong other people own things that I don't."


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I did. And those who own property or collect rent, fees for a service, or fees for use of a good are not a drain on society. In fact, they actually contribute to the economy.

To claim that they are a "drain" is insane. Regardless of what drivel you wish to believe....


Don't mislead, though, he held government up as "takers" to...as renters via taxes.

The entire point of the article where unions and government are lumped together:

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All of these goods or services are necessary to make or distribute the goods and services generated by productive industry (which can be government-owned or nonprofit, as well as for-profit). If one or more of the sectors providing inputs or infrastructure to productive industry charges excessive rents, then industry can be strangled. Industry cannot flourish if too much rent is paid to landlords, if credit is too expensive, if excessive copyright protections stifle the diffusion of technology. Even progressives must concede that guilds or unions or professions can use the power of labor monopolies to demand excessive incomes for their members and that at some point high taxes really do strangle the economy. (The evidence of successful high-tax-big government countries like those of Scandinavia suggests that you can go safely up to about 40-50 percent of GDP going to government, assuming the taxes are well spent and raised largely by less-distortionary taxes including consumption, property and wealth taxes).
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Antonio Moss
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
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So if rentiers don't rent to people, where do these people live?


That was my first thought. Those damn rentiers providing people with places to live and work!

As SFP, this article really is too stupid to even comment on.


CptBengal
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Don't mislead, though, he held government up as "takers" to...as renters via taxes.


and then qualified his statement with more liberal claptrap 2 paragraphs later:

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at some point high taxes really do strangle the economy. (The evidence of successful high-tax-big government countries like those of Scandinavia suggests that you can go safely up to about 40-50 percent of GDP going to government, assuming the taxes are well spent and raised largely by less-distortionary taxes including consumption, property and wealth taxes).


keep swinging "progressive"...


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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
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So if rentiers don't rent to people, where do these people live?


Tenements


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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
Who is John Galt?


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SlowFlowPro
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
the article is so stupid that i ponder what the response could be

his stance is that rentiers are bad b/c they hoard land and charge excessive rents. so how do we divide the land for people who can't afford to buy it outright?


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SammyTiger
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
Now this is class warfair. So providing somethign for money makes you a taker. But providing nothing for money doesn't?

HOw are people who are on welfare not a bigger drain to society, than someone who sells power, or offers shelter.

Stupid.


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SlowFlowPro
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re: Theater of the Bizzare - Real Parasites ("takers") are those in Private Sector
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The entire point of the article where unions and government are lumped together:

i don't know if he had "one" point. he kind of rambled about a couple of topics


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