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THE WAR FOR THE SOUL OF THE MARINE CORPS: IT’S TIME TO CHOOSE
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:20 am
THE WAR FOR THE SOUL OF THE MARINE CORPS: IT’S TIME TO CHOOSE
The Marines United scandal has exposed the disturbing fact that many Marines past and present view female Marines as lesser creatures, suitable for exploitation and never to be truly accepted as full-fledged members of the Corps. This stunning misconduct presents a stark moral fork in the road for Marine leaders of all ranks. They have but two choices: to finally recognize the depth and pervasiveness of this intractable “boys club” culture and stamp it out for good, or to remain complicit by once again taking half-hearted actions that bury the problem of an unofficial Marine culture of rampant sexism – one that utterly violates the Corps’ values of honor, courage, and commitment. In this epic battle for the soul of the Marine Corps, the service’s leaders must once and for all choose the forces representing the future and permanently reject those whose prejudices belong in the distant past.
The details of the current scandal are staggering and deeply disturbing. On March 4, a Marine combat veteran revealed the existence of a secret, invitation-only Facebook group called Marines United, which both solicited and shared photos of naked female Marines. The group, formed in 2015, included more than 30,000 active duty or former male Marines and their affiliated Navy corpsmen. Other services have struggled with online harassment of military women, but none to this magnitude. In addition to salacious photos, the site included countless vicious misogynist comments promoting everything from sexual assault to sharing of revenge porn photos of female Marines. Without a hint of irony, the group’s code of conduct prohibited threats, harm, or harassment – an astonishing statement, as if these photos and comments did not inherently constitute offensive and threatening behavior.
The Marine Corps leadership was slow to react to this discovery and even slower to condemn it. The Marines were reportedly informed of this site nearly two months ago and apparently did little to respond. The day after the story broke, Gen. Robert Neller – the Marine Corps Commandant – issued a terse statement describing the incident as “distasteful.” On March 8th, Neller released a video statement calling the incident “embarrassing to our Corps, to our families and to our nation.” He attributed the illicit photo site to “some Marines…who have acted selfishly and unprofessionally through their actions on social media.” By March 10, mounting public pressure prompted Neller to hold a Pentagon press conference to address the issue. He urged the female Marines victimized by the site to come forward and “trust us” to find and punish the perpetrators, and announced the formation of a task force to look at the problem. He clearly but belatedly stated: “This is our problem, and I own it.” Last week he testified before Congress, promising to “take action to correct this stain on our Marine Corps.”
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We can't do the mission without WM's and they do a great job. Denigrating their service is counter-productive and just plain mean.
That said, one of the former WM's interviewed on ABC is a porn star with a number of videos on a site I guess I better not name.
I could only post a small part of the article to get it to fit.
I wonder what ya'll think.
The Marines United scandal has exposed the disturbing fact that many Marines past and present view female Marines as lesser creatures, suitable for exploitation and never to be truly accepted as full-fledged members of the Corps. This stunning misconduct presents a stark moral fork in the road for Marine leaders of all ranks. They have but two choices: to finally recognize the depth and pervasiveness of this intractable “boys club” culture and stamp it out for good, or to remain complicit by once again taking half-hearted actions that bury the problem of an unofficial Marine culture of rampant sexism – one that utterly violates the Corps’ values of honor, courage, and commitment. In this epic battle for the soul of the Marine Corps, the service’s leaders must once and for all choose the forces representing the future and permanently reject those whose prejudices belong in the distant past.
The details of the current scandal are staggering and deeply disturbing. On March 4, a Marine combat veteran revealed the existence of a secret, invitation-only Facebook group called Marines United, which both solicited and shared photos of naked female Marines. The group, formed in 2015, included more than 30,000 active duty or former male Marines and their affiliated Navy corpsmen. Other services have struggled with online harassment of military women, but none to this magnitude. In addition to salacious photos, the site included countless vicious misogynist comments promoting everything from sexual assault to sharing of revenge porn photos of female Marines. Without a hint of irony, the group’s code of conduct prohibited threats, harm, or harassment – an astonishing statement, as if these photos and comments did not inherently constitute offensive and threatening behavior.
The Marine Corps leadership was slow to react to this discovery and even slower to condemn it. The Marines were reportedly informed of this site nearly two months ago and apparently did little to respond. The day after the story broke, Gen. Robert Neller – the Marine Corps Commandant – issued a terse statement describing the incident as “distasteful.” On March 8th, Neller released a video statement calling the incident “embarrassing to our Corps, to our families and to our nation.” He attributed the illicit photo site to “some Marines…who have acted selfishly and unprofessionally through their actions on social media.” By March 10, mounting public pressure prompted Neller to hold a Pentagon press conference to address the issue. He urged the female Marines victimized by the site to come forward and “trust us” to find and punish the perpetrators, and announced the formation of a task force to look at the problem. He clearly but belatedly stated: “This is our problem, and I own it.” Last week he testified before Congress, promising to “take action to correct this stain on our Marine Corps.”
LINK
We can't do the mission without WM's and they do a great job. Denigrating their service is counter-productive and just plain mean.
That said, one of the former WM's interviewed on ABC is a porn star with a number of videos on a site I guess I better not name.
I could only post a small part of the article to get it to fit.
I wonder what ya'll think.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:21 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:22 am to WhiskeyPapa
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That said, one of the former WM's interviewed on ABC is a porn star with a number of videos on a site I guess I better not name.
You write all that shite and then hold out on a name. Down voted.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:23 am to WhiskeyPapa
I can't.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:24 am to WhiskeyPapa
HOLY shite ALL CAPS AND WALL OF TEXT THIS MUST BE IMPORTANT!!!!
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:24 am to Wolfhound45
I/U on pics of chicks doing Kung fu in this thread set at 38.5
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:25 am to WhiskeyPapa
Women everywhere should be disgusted by this behavior, and to show their disdain, ought to engage in 'A Corps Without Women' in perpetuity.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:26 am to WhiskeyPapa
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That said, one of the former WM's interviewed on ABC is a porn star with a number of videos on a site I guess I better not name.
No link? Have a downvote
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:26 am to HempHead
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Women everywhere should be disgusted by this behavior, and to show their disdain, ought to engage in 'A Corps Without Women' in perpetuity.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:28 am to GeauxxxTigers23
In reality they're probably going to do something like integrate the training bays at PI and require two more weeks of sexual harassment classes and powerpoints.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:31 am to TigernMS12
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You write all that shite and then hold out on a name. Down voted.
Dear Me. She is easily found. Her nickname is "Baby Arm".
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:32 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:35 am to RabidTiger
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HOLY shite ALL CAPS AND WALL OF TEXT THIS MUST BE IMPORTANT!!!!
I thought of that. That is a straight cut and paste from the link.
You may have heard the story of the guy who posted all in caps. Someone gently chided him about it. “Don’t you know that if you engage the ‘cap lock’ it makes all your text upper case?”
'HEY THANKS A LOT THAT IS A BIG HELP.' He wrote back.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:38 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:40 am to WhiskeyPapa
wut?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:41 am to WhiskeyPapa
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We can't do the mission without WM's and they do a great job.
I see either one of two scenarios playing out.
1)Women are no longer allowed in the corps
2)Full integration. Political correctness and unit performance be damned. Female recruits should be warned that they will be treated exactly as their male counterparts with same PFT, same lifting and training requirements, and that no special provisions will be given to them in the field (showers, head, barracks, etc.). If they don't want to deal with it they shouldn't enlist.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:41 am to HempHead
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Women everywhere should be disgusted by this behavior, and to show their disdain, ought to engage in 'A Corps Without Women' in perpetuity.
The teenagers of America are a bunch of fat slobs so that isn't possible. Women have to be in the mix.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:42 am to WhiskeyPapa
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The Marines United scandal has exposed the disturbing fact that many Marines past and present view female Marines as lesser creatures, suitable for exploitation and never to be truly accepted as full-fledged members of the Corps.
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I wonder what ya'll think
I think that the Marine Corps is not an equal playing field where everyone gets a participation trophy, or deserves to be a Marine because they want to be a Marine. I think that many men are also considered lesser creatures that cannot pass muster to become a Marine. I think that when standards are not met, you don't lower the standards so everyone can be a marine. I think the Marines are the tip of the spear, without question, and their job is to be a fast deployed highly mobile aggressive force that must act as one unit and unleash hell, fire, and brimstone on the enemy, and anytime a unit so important as the Corps are tinkered with so as to allow anyone who cannot meet the standards expected of such an important force to carry out those duties, you cannot expect that force to be the same force and act as efficiently as they once did.
The Marine corps is not the Army, the Air Force, or the Navy where more specialized roles can allow for women to participate in supportive jobs. It is still, and more so now than ever before, with the Army relinquishing much of that in lieu of more high tech support, the boots on the ground for this country. You frick with that, you weaken this country militarily in carrying out their duties, and put people's lives more in danger.
Carry out your experiments elsewhere. Don't use the tip of the spear to test your social experiments. Keep that shite within the protected walls of academia, not within the very people that protect academia as well as the rest of America.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:42 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:43 am to WhiskeyPapa
I know we want this issue fully explored so here is one of the former Marines whose pics were used without her permission.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:45 am
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