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RogerTheShrubber
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an extremely unnecessary vocal minority.



Unfortunately, these vocal minorities make most of the noise and get too much attention. Both sides of the aisle. Normal working folks who constitute the majority of the population are rarely heard.


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RogerTheShrubber
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A few. Most had fallen on hard times due to some falling out with the family and strange twists in life. It happens. Most don't live like that forever though.
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IceTiger
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Bud, are you OK?

You don't feel like you're going to hurt yourself, do you.

Hate to see feelings so easily devestated by someone else's arrogance.


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dischNoutTAspd
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Thanks for the free money Whitey


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SoulGlo
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You must have a pretty bad perception of welfare recipients



If you live on someone else's money against their will, you should prove that you're not using it on drugs.


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If you live on someone else's money against their will, you should prove that you're not using it on drugs.


Says who?


SoulGlo
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Says who?



Anyone who agrees with that statement.

An employer can drug test its employees, right?


RogerTheShrubber
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If you live on someone else's money against their will, you should prove that you're not using it on drugs.



Eh, not for testing welfare recipients. You are giving them money for nothing anyway, no reason to worry about what they are doing with it.

It also takes money to test, and creates more govt bureaucracy.


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An employer can drug test its employees, right?


Sure.

Go ahead, test welfare receipents for drugs.

No, just cut off all welfare and see how that goes.


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SoulGlo
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Eh, not for testing welfare recipients. You are giving them money for nothing anyway, no reason to worry about what they are doing with it.



Far fewer people should be on welfare/food stamps. If it was limited to those who are unable to work, then I'd say no test. There are a ton of people collecting funds that they wouldn't otherwise be if they had a modicum of self control. If you have the cash to buy drugs, then you're not using all of that "assistance" for necessities. It shouldn't be comfortable to live off of other people's money.


RogerTheShrubber
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Far fewer people should be on welfare/food stamps. If it was limited to those who are unable to work, then I'd say no test. There are a ton of people collecting funds that they wouldn't otherwise be if they had a modicum of self control. If you have the cash to buy drugs, then you're not using all of that "assistance" for necessities. It shouldn't be comfortable to live off of other people's money.


Agree with part of what you say, but if you are going to be for small govt, don't create more intrusion by having citizens tested by the govt when there is no probable cause.


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Who cares if they inherit money and act like their shite doesn't stink? I don't care about anybody else's means of wealth as long as it doesn't involve crime or corruption. If some rich kid has an opinion about how the government is taking their (or their family's) money is it not valid (even if you think they are being douche bags)?

The abortion meme is just about hypocrisy and can be expanded into several aspects of ideology. For instance, the rich liberal who says the rich should pay more, but he/she doesn't voluntarily give more money to the government for the greater good.

hypocrisy is hypocrisy

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SoulGlo
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don't create more intrusion by having citizens tested by the govt when there is no probable cause.


There should be less intrusion on those of us who are not wards of the State. If you want to partake of drugs and not be tested, don't allow the government to be your parent. Pay with your own money. Testing a small percentage randomly wouldn't cost much at all.


Rocket
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If some rich kid has an opinion about how the government is taking their (or their family's money) is it not valid (even if you think they are being douche bags)?


Alot of people don't think the opinions of people who come from wealthy families are valid when they try to tell poor people how to live. Or that poor folk just need to shut up and pull themselves up by their bootstraps


RogerTheShrubber
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There should be less intrusion on those of us who are not wards of the State.


agree. Good luck convincing people that forcefully taking your money via taxation is intrusion though. Some seriously believe the govt allows you to have what you have and you should be grateful.

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If you want to partake of drugs and not be tested, don't allow the government to be your parent. Pay with your own money. Testing a small percentage randomly wouldn't cost much at all.


Eh, drugs should be legal anyway. You can test for drugs, but are you are not going to keep people from spending that money at strip clubs, on alcohol, on gambling, etc.


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Eh, drugs should be legal anyway. You can test for drugs, but are you are not going to keep people from spending that money at strip clubs, on alcohol, on gambling, etc.


Question isn't legality - it's should a welfare recipient be able to collect while doing things that harm themselves and arguably prevent them from getting off welfare.


RogerTheShrubber
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Question isn't legality - it's should a welfare recipient be able to collect while doing things that harm themselves and arguably prevent them from getting off welfare.


Like I said, you will have to put a guardian on them to keep them from blowing money and keep them from doing things harmful to them, and to a successful lifestyle.

They can drink it or gamble it away and there is nothing you can do. It's a given that people who are on welfare long term are doing things to hurt their movement into the middle class
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ShortyRob
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Alot of people don't think the opinions of people who come from wealthy families are valid when they try to tell poor people how to live. Or that poor folk just need to shut up and pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Generally speaking, in real life, if someone wants me to give them money, I evaluate myself whether they really need it. If the guy asking me for money because he can't afford to pay his electric bill is spending money on drugs, then he's going to have to get the money for his electrical bill elsewhere. That's pretty much how about 100% of the people in the world operate in real life. Only when we install a govt intermediary do people start acting like there's something wrong with it.



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ShortyRob
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Eh, drugs should be legal anyway. You can test for drugs, but are you are not going to keep people from spending that money at strip clubs, on alcohol, on gambling, etc.
Yeah. I should caveat that I don't really support the idea of drug testing those on welfare but the reason is simply that I don't think it's necessary. I don't see anything morally wrong with testing.


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