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The Muslim ban takes effect at midnight
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:00 pm
Trump still winning!
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:02 pm to matthew25
Is the plan for extreme vetting ready yet? How many days has it been?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:09 pm to matthew25
It isn't a muslim ban though
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:11 pm to jmarto1
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It isn't a muslim ban though
This. You look like an idiot when you call it that considering the travel ban had to be rewritten just because of it.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:18 pm to Decatur
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Is the plan for extreme vetting ready yet? How many days has it been?
Are you insinuating that they weren't working on the logistics behind it since the rogue court tried to block it?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:21 pm to TigernMS12
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This. You look like an idiot when you call it that considering the travel ban had to be rewritten just because of it.
Actually, the original travel ban wasn't even a muslim ban though.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:22 pm to Sentrius
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Actually, the original travel ban wasn't even a muslim ban though.
It had to be rewritten to take out an exception for christians coming from those countries among other things. Considering there's pretty much Muslims and Christians there, it was essentially a Muslim ban. Why I thought the first ban actually was unconstitutional and why I think the second one was fine.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:24 pm to beerJeep
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Are you insinuating that they weren't working on the logistics behind it since the rogue court tried to block it?
You are aware that the judge in Hawaii not only blocked the travel ban but also halted the review process correct?
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:26 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:27 pm to TigernMS12
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It had to be rewritten to take out an exception for christians coming from those countries among other things. Considering there's pretty much Muslims and Christians there
Christians are in the minority in those countries though and would apply for asylum based on religious persecution.
And the Trump administration just went through some bad press for deporting christians back to their home countries so there's that.
Still not a muslim ban.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:32 pm to Sentrius
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Still not a muslim ban.
I agree that it is not in it's current form because there is no "minority preference" (aka Christian preference). If you want to deny that that clause's purpose was to give christians a way around the EO, then carry on, but when you have country (or 7 in this case) that are essentially made up of Muslims and Christians with Muslims being the majority, and you give a preference to minority religions, that is banning Muslims and giving preference to Christians.
IMO, yes the first one was a Muslim ban. That's the whole reason that it had to be rewritten. Even if we're not only talking about Christians, when you only ban the majority religion of those countries your essentially banning only Muslims.
They should have done what they eventually did do and just ban all travel from those counties regardless of religion.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:34 pm to matthew25
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The Muslim ban takes effect at midnight
The winning we will do as Americans with a young, Constitutional Supreme Court will be YUGE
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:54 pm to joshnorris14
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This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:59 pm to matthew25
Winning week coming into our celebration of Independence.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:19 am to matthew25
At least you are finally admitting its a ban against a religion.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:37 am to asurob1
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At least you are finally admitting its a ban against a religion.
It is a ban against a threat to our nation. Anything else is irrelevant.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:58 am to TigernMS12
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but when you have country (or 7 in this case) that are essentially made up of Muslims and Christians with Muslims being the majority, and
I wonder if this is like a "Muslim Privilege" in those countries?
Hmmmmmm....
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:08 am to matthew25
Muslims smell bad and rarely laugh
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