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The Major Problems in Our Society are Driven by Liberals
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:34 am
I was scrolling through TD's Poli board like any other morning, on my second cup of coffee just looking to kill time in between my usual Monday morning meetings, when I came across a post citing an article about a biological woman who took some insane picture of her period and then claimed that periods are not just for women. For obvious reasons to those conservatives on this board, I took a bit of an issue with such an idiotic statement. But it got me thinking about how we got here as a society. Where we somehow have redefined basic anatomy in place of "feelings". That then snowballed in my mind to how we've become so segregated as a country and how individuals are more concerned about which boxes they can check on forms rather than their own character. Now, I support people's right to be gay, or trans, or a tree, doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is why we have to make it an issue in the first place.
Take the bathroom issue for example. Not a single person on God's green earth would question if a transgender "man" went to men's bathroom. Truth be told, most of them look like dudes in the first place, or at least like teenage guys. So why did it become an issue? Because liberals made it an issue. You can go back on just about any societal issue and see at what point in time liberals decided to make an issue out of it.
I don't think, as conservatives, that the majority of us hate people for what they chose to be. Contrary to what most liberals think, we genuinely do not care what gender you chose to be. We care that you're making it an issue in the first place. You're painting people into subcategories and driving wedges between them and the rest of society. By pushing "equality", you are creating inequality. I honestly believe that people, although they may be werided out a bit, are generally accepting of other people's choices in life. We just don't need it thrust in our faces with simpleton thinking. No one cares, go about your life the way you please.
The biggest problem I see with our society is that liberals like to say "this person is different, you have to accepted them!", while conservatives say "I don't care if that person is different, they should follow the same rules as everyone else."
Like the bathrooms, pick one. I don't need to know which one you pick and why.
Take the bathroom issue for example. Not a single person on God's green earth would question if a transgender "man" went to men's bathroom. Truth be told, most of them look like dudes in the first place, or at least like teenage guys. So why did it become an issue? Because liberals made it an issue. You can go back on just about any societal issue and see at what point in time liberals decided to make an issue out of it.
I don't think, as conservatives, that the majority of us hate people for what they chose to be. Contrary to what most liberals think, we genuinely do not care what gender you chose to be. We care that you're making it an issue in the first place. You're painting people into subcategories and driving wedges between them and the rest of society. By pushing "equality", you are creating inequality. I honestly believe that people, although they may be werided out a bit, are generally accepting of other people's choices in life. We just don't need it thrust in our faces with simpleton thinking. No one cares, go about your life the way you please.
The biggest problem I see with our society is that liberals like to say "this person is different, you have to accepted them!", while conservatives say "I don't care if that person is different, they should follow the same rules as everyone else."
Like the bathrooms, pick one. I don't need to know which one you pick and why.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 9:36 am
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:38 am to ibleedprplngld
Liberalism is a nasty disease
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:42 am to ibleedprplngld
I agree.
In real life I really don't care. On the internet I might troll this issue a little bit.
In real life I really don't care. On the internet I might troll this issue a little bit.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:47 am to ibleedprplngld
any "conservative" countries you can move to?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:49 am to LSU1NSEC
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any "conservative" countries you can move to?
If this last election is any indicator, I already live in one.
Good debate, we should do it again sometime.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:50 am to ibleedprplngld
Didn't read. Have a downvote.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:51 am to ibleedprplngld
I think it would be nice if that were true and I hope it is for a majority of conservatives. I do wonder though if you aren't projecting your own positions on the the party in order to be more comfortable with the label. For example, I think a significant portion of the conservative base wants to "protect" marriage as between one man and one woman. I do not believe that liberals forced that issue. I would argue the same with the bathroom issue TBH.
All that being said, its hard to gauge wtf is going on with a media that loves the squeaky wheel.
All that being said, its hard to gauge wtf is going on with a media that loves the squeaky wheel.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:53 am to AUbused
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I think it would be nice if that were true and I hope it is for a majority of conservatives. I do wonder though if you aren't projecting your own positions on the the party in order to be more comfortable with the label. For example, I think a significant portion of the conservative base wants to "protect" marriage as between one man and one woman. I do not believe that liberals forced that issue. I would argue the same with the bathroom issue TBH.
All that being said, its hard to gauge wtf is going on with a media that loves the squeaky wheel.
Don't confuse conservatism with republicans. I may vote republican, but it's more because I can't bring myself to vote for any democrat. I'm also a registered independent.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:59 am to ibleedprplngld
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If this last election is any indicator, I already live in one.
The greatest wool job ever pulled were Republicans convincing people that they were conservative.
Socially conservative, MAYBE. Fiscally? Not even remotely.
Not a fan of liberals, but at least they own up to it. A lot of token "conservatives" who really aren't.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:00 am to ibleedprplngld
If conservatives (or anyone) is not willing to go to the mat for issues they believe in then the fault lies with them for not defending their political position.
If you or I elect someone who refuses to fight for the views that we believe in then we need to make sure they do not get re-elected.
I'm an independent. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate based on my research. Both republican and democrat officials blame and blame. The press goes right along with it. It's nonsense.
If you or I elect someone who refuses to fight for the views that we believe in then we need to make sure they do not get re-elected.
I'm an independent. I vote for who I believe is the best candidate based on my research. Both republican and democrat officials blame and blame. The press goes right along with it. It's nonsense.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:01 am to ibleedprplngld
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I was scrolling through TD's Poli board like any other morning, on my second cup of coffee just looking to kill time in between my usual Monday morning meetings, when I came across a post citing an article about a biological woman who took some insane picture of her period and then claimed that periods are not just for women. For obvious reasons to those conservatives on this board, I took a bit of an issue with such an idiotic statement. But it got me thinking about how we got here as a society. Where we somehow have redefined basic anatomy in place of "feelings". That then snowballed in my mind to how we've become so segregated as a country and how individuals are more concerned about which boxes they can check on forms rather than their own character. Now, I support people's right to be gay, or trans, or a tree, doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is why we have to make it an issue in the first place.
Take the bathroom issue for example. Not a single person on God's green earth would question if a transgender "man" went to men's bathroom. Truth be told, most of them look like dudes in the first place, or at least like teenage guys. So why did it become an issue? Because liberals made it an issue. You can go back on just about any societal issue and see at what point in time liberals decided to make an issue out of it.
I don't think, as conservatives, that the majority of us hate people for what they chose to be. Contrary to what most liberals think, we genuinely do not care what gender you chose to be. We care that you're making it an issue in the first place. You're painting people into subcategories and driving wedges between them and the rest of society. By pushing "equality", you are creating inequality. I honestly believe that people, although they may be werided out a bit, are generally accepting of other people's choices in life. We just don't need it thrust in our faces with simpleton thinking. No one cares, go about your life the way you please.
Yeah,you guys are the paragon of rationality and tolerance.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:05 am to ibleedprplngld
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The Major Problems in Our Society are Driven by Liberals
This started in the 60s
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:07 am to ibleedprplngld
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The Major Problems in Our Society are Driven by Liberals
It's really those primitive Neanderthals that are ruining everything, hating on us Cro-Magnons.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:15 am to skrayper
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Not a fan of liberals, but at least they own up to it.
No, they don't. That's why liberals use the word 'investments' in place of 'tax hikes.'
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:18 am to ibleedprplngld
the major problem in our society is the inability of both sides to talk to each other about actual issues and find some sort of common ground without resorting to name-calling and trying to get under their opponents skin instead of trying to understand each other.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:21 am to ibleedprplngld
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So why did it become an issue? Because liberals made it an issue.
While there are seemingly reasonable points in your post, this issue has blown up because conservative state leges are making it an issue. There's been no issue in Texas with it yet the far-right lt gov called a special session just to deal with the 'issue.'
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:21 am to ibleedprplngld
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If this last election is any indicator, I already live in one.
Good debate, we should do it again sometime.
So what conservative things have actually changed?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:22 am to ibleedprplngld
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You can go back on just about any societal issue and see at what point in time liberals decided to make an issue out of it.
The radical wing of the progressive liberal movement has whittled away at traditional values in our country for one hundred years. What we have now is a disaster. Divorce and promiscuity is rampant. Even amongst Christians the divorce rate is roughly equal (50%) to that of the unbelieving secular world. We disgard our marriages, and our babies (abortion) much as we disgard our disposable styrofoam cups. We're seeing the rise of the disposable society. Even now Congress debates a repeal of Obamacare with its death panels and shrinking benefits for the elderly. But I digress.
It's truly startling how much we've declined in our moral standards. You doubt my assertion? Well I submit for your consideration statistics put out by the Center for Disease Control (CDC)on the pandemic (no other way to describe it) of Sexually Transmitted Disease (STD) cases in our country. Since we have a population of roughly 323 million AND we have 110 million folks infected with some form of STD that works out to one-in-three Americans infected. Think about that statistic for a moment.
In order to restructure society to meet their pluralistic sterile model radical Progressive Liberals have created havoc in our traditional institutions, including marriage and family. Make no mistake about it, the opposition to Donald Trump has more to do with the threat his supporters pose to the Progressive Liberal Agenda, than they are repulsed by his caustic personality. They want this guy out, and their stooge in control, so that they can resume their control over our lives. Included in that control governs the numbers of children we are allowed to have, the ability to defend ourselves against tyranny, even to exert control over our own "private" property. They want to micromanage our lives.....period.
Think about it!
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:25 am to Zach
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No, they don't. That's why liberals use the word 'investments' in place of 'tax hikes.'
Not saying you're wrong, but I have never heard that phrase used.
That being said, I meant stating that they are actually liberal and then advocating for liberal policies. "Conservatives" get to office and then advocate for one or two conservative policies, then go nuts.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:26 am to skrayper
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Not a fan of liberals, but at least they own up to it. A lot of token "conservatives" who really aren't.
no they don't. Liberals lie about everything. That's why they have had their arse handed to them in election after election since 2010. People are sick of them lying about the facts to support their positions. Even when liberals are sometimes right on an issue, they have to lie to make their position look better.
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