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The left is just anti-trump..somehow saying everyone should stand together for the anthem

Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
8280 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:22 pm
is somehow divisive. Yet, disrespecting the flag isnt. Thats the left for you. Biggest bunch of hypocrites out there.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:24 pm to
spent 22 yrs in the army I don't think its disrespecting the flag. the flag is not what I fought for in nam and several other countries
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:31 pm to
Honestly, I can see someone having issue with the Pledge of Allegiance, because what if the government goes tyranical and we have to take it back. A pledge from your average citizen I think debatably stands against what the founding fathers stood for.

But the National Anthem, get the frick out of here. That song is all about American ideals and how this country is fricking awesome. Every American should defend the American dream and defend it in case the government goes tyranical or there's some sort of coup.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:34 pm to
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the flag is not what I fought for in nam and several other countries


It's the National symbol for what you fought for though, no?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13162 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:35 pm to
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spent 22 yrs in the army I don't think its disrespecting the flag. the flag is not what I fought for in nam and several other countries


First, let me say that I highly respect your service. /salute But the flag is a symbol of our nation. It's a symbol of the freedom we hold so dear. What exactly did you fight for in nam and several other countries? And what do you think is the purpose of the NFL player protests?

What I do know is that the NFL has a clearly stated rule regarding respectful behavior during the National Anthem and these players are violating those rules. If they want to protest, then they should have worked with the NFL and the owners to change the rules. It's not unlike this illegal immigration bullshite. They can't change the law so the left ignores the law to benefit their agenda. This is no different. It's all about pushing their agenda.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:36 pm to
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spent 22 yrs in the army I don't think its disrespecting the flag. the flag is not what I fought for in nam and several other countries

I don't think you were trained very well. I'll just leave this right here


Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58089 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:36 pm to
You left out the part where he called them son of a bitches.
I'm against the kneeling but Teump acting like a 14 year old kid fcked this whole situation up
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:37 pm to
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It's a symbol of the freedom we hold so dear. What exactly did you fight for in nam and several other countries? And what do you think is the purpose of the NFL player protests?


So if it's a symbol of the "freedom we hold so dear" and a group of people believe that that freedom either doesn't exist or is limited to only some, why would protesting said symbol be out of line?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:52 pm to
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why would protesting said symbol be out of line?

Almost 30 stars on that flag represent the states that NEVER participated in the slave trade. Why piss on them?
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:45 pm to
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why would protesting said symbol be out of line?


Almost 30 stars on that flag represent the states that NEVER participated in the slave trade. Why piss on them?




because racial injustice didn't end with slavery. It is still ongoing in our country today
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45975 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:51 pm to
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spent 22 yrs in the army I don't think its disrespecting the flag. the flag is not what I fought for in nam and several other countries




That's a lot of saluting, thank you for your service. Now go stand next to those flag draped coffins with mothers, fathers, wives, children, weeping and tell them that that flag does not represent the country that their loved one gave the ultimate sacrifice for. You know better!!!
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:59 pm to
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You left out the part where he called them son of a bitches.


maybe he should have called them a bunch of literal Hitlers? That seems to be Kosher these days.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:00 pm to
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is somehow divisive. Yet, disrespecting the flag isnt. Thats the left for you. Biggest bunch of hypocrites out there.




Everyone stands for the flag in North Korea.

Standing for the flag is not what makes this country great.

Obedience to rituals is not what defines a person's patriotism.

WWII was not fought so our leadership could demand our people to comply. It was fought for the ability to still raise our flag high up and ensure the people standing under it have the right to criticize it's government and policies without fear of retribution like the autocrats we just defeated.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:04 pm to
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It is still ongoing in our country today

I agree, but no one is calling out the racist blacks and their hateful actions, supported by useful idiot white liberals and their ilk. Why do you suppose that is?
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:06 pm to
Well said, AM.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:07 pm to
You're confused.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23646 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:09 pm to
Trump called them sons of bitches. That kind of thing motivates football players to stick together and stand up to it. None of this is complicated. Trump made it personal. Got nothing to do with the flag.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6621 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:12 pm to
imho, these players, with their protests during the anthem, are attacking the only thing that all Americans have always been able to come together to rally behind: the USA and all the freedoms and opportunities it guarantees.

There will always be calls for change on this or that, but once we're divided on respect, appreciation, and love of country, what's left that we have in common, that will draw us together?

Protesting is their right and no one has a problem with it. They just need to do it at another time and place. It's the timing and venue that's inciting anger.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:16 pm to
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That kind of thing motivates football players to stick together and stand up to it.


The tribal mind. Not surprising for some reason.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 7:19 pm to
Why don't you just say what you mean?
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