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The GOP Entitlement Caucus
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:58 am
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The full dimensions of the GOP’s self-defeat on health care will emerge over time, but one immediate consequence is giving up block grants for Medicaid. This transformation would have put the program on a budget for the first time since it was created in 1965, and the bill’s opponents ought to be held accountable for the rising spending that they could have prevented.
The members of the House Freedom Caucus who killed ObamaCare’s repeal and replacement claim to be fiscal hawks. Most of them support a balanced budget amendment. Yet they gave zero credit to a reform that would have restored Medicaid—a safety net originally intended for poor women, children and the disabled—to its original, more limited purposes.
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Republicans had a rare opening to change the projected trajectory, by limiting the federal government’s open-ended commitment. The federal government “matches” between 50% and 74% of costs for the pre-ObamaCare population, while new Medicaid earns 90%-95%. This formula rewards states that spend more and means they are less accountable for controlling spending or allocating resources toward high-quality care for the most vulnerable.
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The House bill would have transitioned to a per-capita block grant that would grow with an index of medical inflation. The change would have broken the direct link between state spending and federal subsidies and started to make more of a defined contribution. In exchange, Governors would have gained reform flexibility.
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The bill wasn’t perfect. Per capita block grants that rise with medical inflation is insufficient fiscal discipline, and the bill would have added to the political pressure to join new Medicaid in the 19 states that haven’t. Block grants also would have been delayed until 2020, and the danger of waiting is that they get overturned by a future Congress or become a new version of the old “sustainable growth rate” recipe in Medicare—an orphan that Congress defers year after year.
But the Freedom Caucus decided to wait not until 2020 but forever. A fragile compromise that could attract majority support was rejected in favor of sustaining Medicaid’s march into insolvency. Republicans may not get a better chance for decades to modernize Medicaid in a way that helps the poor and taxpayers, and voters would be right to doubt the Freedom Caucus’s evanescent fiscal bona fides.
Cucks
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:04 am to Lou Pai
Melt: day whatever I'm not keeping track
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:05 am to Lou Pai
breaking news: politicians are sh!theads
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:05 am to Lou Pai
Are we falling for the old "Append a good idea onto a controversial bill in order to lambast our opponent's when it fails" gambit again?
I can't wait for the next storyline about Republicans voting against some military benefit because it is buried in a giant entitlement package.
I can't wait for the next storyline about Republicans voting against some military benefit because it is buried in a giant entitlement package.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:28 am to CorporateTiger
Haha yeah great analogy, given that it was an imperfect but nonetheless overwhelmingly conservative bill with hangups including the inflation index being used or maybe the timing of the repeal of the Cadillac tax being 8 or 10 years out.
frick the biggest entitlement reform since the 60s though amirite? Even though we don't have the votes, we need full repeal right meow!
frick the biggest entitlement reform since the 60s though amirite? Even though we don't have the votes, we need full repeal right meow!
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:34 am to Lou Pai
your link does not work but I see WSJ in it. prolly some hell-bent k-streeter establishment type-opinion piece; because they are all butthurt their special interests and lobbying fell through.
BFD it means nada. Ryan said he will try again. we shall see
BFD it means nada. Ryan said he will try again. we shall see
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:37 am to Lou Pai
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Even though we don't have the votes, we need full repeal right meow!
I'm holding out for the RAND PLAN personally
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:37 am to Lou Pai
Let's give up ever taking healthcare away from the federal government AND make the failings of Obamacare our own. That will pay political dividends.
Why not introduce this as a standalone item right now?
Why not introduce this as a standalone item right now?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:39 am to Lou Pai
110% Agree...but it's time to move on.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:43 am to BigJim
I won't miss opportunities to point out how shitty the Freedom Caucus is. Bunch of redneck frauds.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:47 am to Lou Pai
Freedom Caucus are good natured people in general but they are grandstanding ideologues that has no place in a system of government that was built on compromise and pragmatism and still requires that to this very day.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:48 am to Lou Pai
Also no way this makes it through reconciliation anyway.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:50 am to Sentrius
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Freedom Caucus are good natured people in general but they are grandstanding ideologues that has no place in a system of government that was built on compromise and pragmatism and still requires that to this very day.
The system of government also was not built on career politicians, yet this is what we have today. The FC realizes this and knows that simply compromising with people who will do and say anything to stay in power is not what is best for America.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:54 am to CorporateTiger
Why wouldn't the block grant plan make it through reconciliation?
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:34 pm to LSU Patrick
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The system of government also was not built on career politicians, yet this is what we have today. The FC realizes this and knows that simply compromising with people who will do and say anything to stay in power is not what is best for America.
Maybe not built by career politicians in the late 18th century, but America has been run by career politicians ever since.
The HFC is an opposition party. They have never and will never be a majority so they don't have the slightest idea what it means to govern. They just know how to reminiscence about days gone by. The "good-old days," which were never quite as good as they present them to be.
That doesn't mean they don't have some good ideas, but America has changed demographically and it will continue to change. The HFC is purely Utopian about what our government will look like and how it will function in the future.
So, you have to decide what constitutes "best for America." Steadfastly sticking to principles that will never become policy or working constructively to insert your ideas into polices that can actually be implemented.
It's the difference between being proud to talk about something you believe in versus being proud to have actually done something that you believe in. The former is easy. The latter is hard.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:34 pm to Sentrius
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Freedom Caucus are good natured people in general but they are grandstanding ideologues that has no place in a system of government that was built on compromise and pragmatism and still requires that to this very day.
the TD argument against compromise is
You must be gay - See Sen Lindsay Graham who just called for Trump to work with the Dems.
and OMG! Spicer yesterday responded "positively". calling on Dems to break with the pack and join the Trump train.
They will, for a price. infrastructure pork for your home district for that healthcare vote to 218
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:52 pm to Lou Pai
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I won't miss opportunities to point out how shitty the Freedom Caucus is. Bunch of redneck frauds.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:55 pm to Sentrius
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Freedom Caucus are good natured people in general but they are grandstanding ideologues that has no place in a system of government that was built on compromise and pragmatism and still requires that to this very day.
Why is compromise and pragmatism never demanded from the democrat socialists or the republican socialists? Why do we always have a socialist starting point arguing only how far the socialism should go at this time?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 12:57 pm to BigJim
That is the last opportunity to actually deal with the cost of healthcare. The cost of insurance and welfare are a function of healthcare cost.
To the extent the freedom caucus insists on addressing these fundamental cost I support them.
Rand Paul's bill will also block grant medicaid but it rightfully strips out the mandated coverages in insurance policies that Ryan's bill would not.
To the extent the freedom caucus insists on addressing these fundamental cost I support them.
Rand Paul's bill will also block grant medicaid but it rightfully strips out the mandated coverages in insurance policies that Ryan's bill would not.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:02 pm to Lou Pai
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frick the biggest entitlement reform since the 60s though amirite? Even though we don't have the votes, we need full repeal right meow!
Why was I lambasted during the campaign with being called a cuck when I asked how trump would accomplish his promises if he didn't have the votes? I have been told "because MAGA" for almost 2 years now
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