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re: The evangelical right is also melting

Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:15 pm to
Nor should you or anyone else for that matter
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:15 pm to
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I had no foolish beliefs that Trump was a good man. He is not by any means whatsoever. He has low morals and maybe an average character at best. But I'm not electing him to be my pastor. I want him to steer an economy and keep my country safe.


Thank you for the honest and sincere answer. This is what the conservative mindset should be. I hope the big government Christians can see that and I hope Trump doesn't try to legislate morality or use our resources to fight over some holy strip of dirt in the Middle East
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:17 pm to
I really like the idea of a judge ruled society wherein judges are selected based off of public esteem and age. I believe that pre-Christian Ireland and Scandinavia were governed in such a way...which is to say, not really governed.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:17 pm to
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Nor should you or anyone else for that matter


How did we get stuck with those 2 candidates? I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them, since I find them both wholly despicable.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:18 pm to
Because a significant majority of We the People have opted out
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:18 pm to
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How did we get stuck with those 2 candidates?


Democracy blows, but it blows especially hard in the weird, nihilistic, radically individual yet strangely collectivist society we live in.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:21 pm to
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Democracy blows, but it blows especially hard in the weird, nihilistic, radically individual yet strangely collectivist society we live in.



The parliamentary model is a better one given the relative diversity of the US, and the diffusion of that diversity.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11348 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:22 pm to
There were good judges and bad judges in those OT days, just like today. Interestingly, it was Moses, at the urging of his FIL (if memory serves correct) to organize and govern the Hebrews in a hierarchical manner when they left Egypt

Nehemiah, though not a judge, was a great leader of people. Chuck Swindol wrote about him in a book entitled, Hand Me Another Brick
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:25 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:24 pm to
Trump is an answer to the open-border, Muslim-apologist, PC culture. That, and he's willing to take non-republican ideas like tarriffs which connected with middle class workers esp in the rust belt. The only surprise is that it took this long for such a candidate to emerge. I'm waiting for similar candidates to emerge in Europe.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:25 pm to
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The parliamentary model is a better one given the relative diversity of the US, and the diffusion of that diversity.



We'd have some rather strange coalitions arise, that's for sure. I'm imagining a bunch of radical white nationalists teaming up with extremist tree huggers to preserve some natural beauty.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:28 pm to
It would be completely fricking awesome. I love watching the British Parliament on TV. It's really entertaining.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:29 pm to
The House of Commons seems like they dressed up a bunch of aged soccer hooligans and threw them in a formal setting.
Posted by Hoodatt
Member since Feb 2005
2598 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:30 pm to
I don't view the article as a melt. Piper makes great points in the article regarding the conflict Christians dealt with in voting for Trump. I'll venture to say they voted for someone else in the primary besides Trump. But, when it came to Trump vs Clinton, it was Trump hands-down. And what you see now is not necessarily enthusiasm that Trump won, but that Clinton lost.

So Piper says, "now what are Christians to do?"

It's simple, Pray for Trump and his administration.

BTW, Mike Pence is a faithful Christ-follower and has a tremendous amount of respect from the Christian community.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:33 pm to
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don't view the article as a melt

You have to remember that everything on the internet now is either a melt or a troll
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50277 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:42 pm to
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The evangelical right is also melting


One article tells you this?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:54 pm to
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One article tells you this?



Common sense tells me this. The Evangelicals hold on this country and particularly the South is finished with Trump.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:58 pm to
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OMLandshark
Keep believing this. Seriously.
Posted by Sapere
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:58 am to
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Calvin believed in hardline predestination


As does Piper.

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the immaculate conception and perpetual virginity of Mary


Where in his writings does Calvin specifically endorse these views?

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rejected sola scriptura


This might be too hasty of an assertion.

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Now daily oracles are not sent from heaven, for it pleased the Lord to hallow his truth to everlasting remembrance in the Scriptures alone.


When taken to its logical conclusion this statement is a rejection of sacred tradition as being infallible. It is therefore a rejection of sacred tradition as being an infallible authority.

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But such wranglers are neatly refuted by just one word of the apostle. He testifies that the church is "built upon the foundation of the prophets and the apostles". If the teaching of the prophets and apostles is the foundation, this must have had authority before the church began to exist. Groundless, too, is their subtle objection that, although the church took its beginning here, the writings to be attributed to the prophets and the apostles nevertheless remain in doubt until decided by the church. For if the Christian church was from the beginning founded upon the writings of the prophets and the preaching of the apostles, wherever this doctrine is found, the acceptance of it-without which the church itself would never have existed-must certainly have preceded the church. It is utterly vain then, to pretend that the power of judging Scripture so lies with church that its certainty depends upon churchly assent.


Here we have a quote that places Scripture as the authority over and above the church.

Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:55 am to
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This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:59 am to
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The two aren't mutually exclusive, unfortunately. In fact, that combination is probably the most intolerable.

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You are misinformed.
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