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RedStickBR
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The Elephant in the Room
It's lazy to blame these types of events on guns when other heavily armed countries (Switzerland) don't have the same problems.

You can't say gun ownership is a problem in the US while ignoring the fact it's apparently not a problem in Switzerland without implicitly ignoring underlying differences between the two countries. It's not like America's guns are just a lot more angry than Switzerland's guns.

Thus, what is that underlying difference? Is it mental illness? Is it general American stress levels? Is it [insert whatever you want here]?

Blaming guns distracts from asking the questions that could actually solve the underlying issue and amounts to confusing the symptom with the actual cause.
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Devil_doge
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re: The Elephant in the Room
^ what he said
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Wally Sparks
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Blaming guns distracts from asking the questions that could actually solve the underlying issue and amounts to confusing the symptom with the actual cause.


That's exactly what the anti-2A people want.


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m2pro
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Thus, what is that underlying difference? Is it mental illness? Is it general American stress levels? Is it [insert whatever you want here]?



And the weak family unit.


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RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Mental health needs to become a priority in this country.


cokebottleag
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Or other lightly armed countries such as Mexico and Brazil have massive murder rates.

It's not about the guns.

It's about culture and ideas. When fricktards get the idea that they can go out in a blaze of glory and get media time with their worthless name in the paper, they act on that idea.

It's the same with suicide. It's a mind virus that spreads.


225bred
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Mental health needs to become a priority in this country.


This X10000


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Wtodd
Missouri Fan
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Member since Oct 2013
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Thus, what is that underlying difference?

Political correctness in not calling shite what it is.
Political leaders that condone certain acts by CERTAIN races, religion, etc.

Oh yeah not locking crazy motherfrickers up for life


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Five0
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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asking the questions that could actually solve the underlying issue


You think the people yelling the loudest to do away with freedom care about solving this or any other issue?

* rhetorical question not aimed at you or your post.


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upgrayedd
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Switzerland may be heavily armed but their process of obtaining and retaining a gun is waaaaay more restrictive than in the US.


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jptiger2009
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Mental health needs to become a priority in this country


how can mental health become a priority in a country that doesn't prioritize their own healthcare?


BamaAtl
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Switzerland


Let's copy Switzerland's gun laws exactly, since you think they're effective in preventing gun violence.



jptiger2009
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Switzerland may be heavily armed but their process of obtaining and retaining a gun is waaaaay more restrictive than in the US


just curious to know if they call out the right to bare arms in their constitution? Cue the libertarians!


Wtodd
Missouri Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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how can mental health become a priority in a country that doesn't prioritize their own healthcare?

There was a time in this country when we locked crazy a-holes up in mental institutions and we had no Federal healthcare......wanna know who wanted the crazies to be let loose? The same people that are screaming Impeach Trump


CoachChappy
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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since you think they're effective in preventing gun violence.


Wow, you really can't read can you? At no point did he say Switzerland's laws were more effective.


Lakeboy7
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Reagan?


14&Counting
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Switzerland is a small country and more civilized.

America is a big country with easier access and plenty of crazy a-holes.


Wtodd
Missouri Fan
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re: The Elephant in the Room
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Reagan?

No the left in the 1970s
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RedStickBR
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Member since Sep 2009
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re: The Elephant in the Room
Valid point, but I'm not sure the acquisition process is all that different and even if it is, what does it tell you that we have so many people in this country who apparently can't have a firearm without going on a murder spree?

Here's what Wiki says about gun acquisition in Switzerland:

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In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm). Swiss citizens and foreigners with a C permit over the age of 18 who are not psychiatrically disqualified nor identified as posing security problems, and who have a clean criminal record can request such a permit. Foreigners with the following citizenship are explicitly excluded from the right to possess weapons: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.


The last part, while a separate issue, is also interesting. Can you imagine how conflicted liberals would be if Trump implemented a similar gun ban on people from certain countries?


Rakim
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re: The Elephant in the Room
The US isn't that far removed from the age of duels and the Wild West. We are not a very civilized society.


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