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re: The Armed Citizen: A week in review

Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71002 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:20 pm to
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well that's what I was talking about and you replied to me.


Well, gator and I were talking and you jumped in.

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.45 has it's own drawbacks, namely capacity.


That isn't a drawback with accuracy and proficient reloads.

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Also negligible difference in energy delivered since a 9mm is moving alot faster.


There are a lot of negligible differences. I've even pointed some of those out to you.

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Would rather have 15-19 rounds per magazine than 7-10, that's a no brainier


The Glock 21 and XDM each have a standard capacity of 14 rounds.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:47 pm to
Semper Fi: Colt M45A1 CQBP Marine Pistol Review
by Eric R. Poole | February 25th, 2014 |



The initial delivery order following the announcement specified 4,036 pistols and spares. However, the contract carries with it an indefinite-delivery and indefinite-quantity clause for up to 12,000 M45A1s, spare parts and logistical support. The value of this contract is said to be worth $22.5 million to Colt. Marine Corps Special Operations Command (MARSOC) and Marine Expeditionary Unit Special Operation Command (MEU[SOC]), as well as members of Force Recon, Special Reaction Teams (SRT) and the Marine Corps pistol team are the expected end users for the first new Colt 1911s added to an armory’s inventory since World War II.

“This is a truly gratifying contract award,” said Gerry Dinkel, president and CEO of Colt Defense. “To have the 1911 selected again for U.S. Forces 101 years after its initial introduction is just an incredible testament to the timeless design and effectiveness of the Colt 1911. Colt Defense looks forward to another great partnership with the Marine Corps as we renew industry production of the military 1911.”







Read more: LINK


Talk all you like but .45 cal is the way to go and the delivery system is the M-1911A1

This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:49 pm to
That and the fact you can load 9mm to have more energy than a standard .45. Most common .45 defensive loads aren't even +P
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Well, gator and I were talking and you jumped in
I replied to him directly about a comment regarding arguing the difference between 9mm and .40
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:51 pm to
frick you guys here's my home defense weapon:



Concealed carry is a bitch though...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71002 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:52 pm to
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I replied to him directly about a comment regarding arguing the difference between 9mm and .40


Cool story. That doesn't change anything I said.

Glad to see you've decided to concede the remaining points, though.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Yes there is a clear right to bear arms. In the Militia Act.


So able-bodied men between the ages of 17-45 have that right.. What about old men, women, cripples, etc? They are not part of the militia as defined in your Dick act. If the definition hasn't changed since 1792 then you must be "so enrolled and notified". I doubt many of us qualify for that.

My point is that we have the right to bear arms and the federal government can legally enforce restrictions based on whatever is deemed reasonable (take California or New York.. if it is constitutional for them to ban XYZ then the federal government also has the latitude to enact those restrictions).

It's not at all like your right to due process.

Edit: My personal stance is that guns exist and there is no putting the cat back in the bag now. Good guys with guns are a good thing.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:10 pm to
You aren't getting our guns granola boy.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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(take California or New York.. if it is constitutional for them to ban XYZ then the federal government also has the latitude to enact those restrictions).


Are you seriously arguing that if a state regulates something, that means the national government can also regulate it just by virtue of the states doing it?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13313 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
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It's not at all like your right to due process.


Might want to ask those on the no-fly list about that. Fig liberals want to take their 2A rights, because they are on that list... without due process.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:14 pm to
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You aren't getting our guns granola boy.


I don't want them taken because we all know it just creates a black market. Completely useless to even try. Plus, they are fun to shoot.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16538 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:14 pm to
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This isn't true.


Actually it is. It's well known that basic mathematics is beyond that woefully undereducated brain of yours, but looking at the raw numbers involving census data and the surveys that have the best track record (even if they are low estimates) it is easily seen that the absolute number of gun owners is higher than at any previous point in US history. This fact is also accounted for by states that issue FOIDs in terms of the volume of new applications processed. I know you are a deeply troubled and ignorant gun-control advocate but please don't pretend gun ownership is anything but increasing in the US.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71002 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:15 pm to
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California or New York...federal government




Nope.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21863 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:15 pm to
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it is easily seen that the absolute number of gun owners is higher than at any previous point in US history


So you're saying that the population of the US has increased in the last 200+ years? You don't say.

Now you've shown time and time again that math isn't your suit, but even you should recognize that I said rates of ownership among the population, not absolute number of owners or absolute number of guns. And you aren't smart enough yet, but one day maybe you'll realize why I phrased it that way.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:17 pm to
Then why are you hung up on this?

Have you seen what a .40 bullet does to rare salamanders? You can't tell them from normal yard lizards afterward.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71002 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:17 pm to
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So you're saying that the population of the US has increased in the last 200+ years? You don't say.




Holy frick. What a thing for you to bitch about.

More guns = more gun deaths.
More people = more population.

You starting to see how stupid your point is now?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16538 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:21 pm to
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but even you should recognize that I said rates of ownership among the population, not absolute number of owners or absolute number of guns.


The post you responded to said:
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There are more guns in the hands of more people in the US


Nothing about the "rate" which is a dishonest frame typical of gun-control advocates that can't handle the truth. Now that you've proved that you are a miserable failure in basic reading comprehension as well as mathematics, just go away and be an pissant in some other thread. You just can't do well here.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:26 pm to
I'm saying that it is an Incorporated right.. the 2nd amendment applies both to states and the federal government. If a law passed by a state is ruled constitutional then it holds that the same law passed by the feds would also be constitutional

"The Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:" - USSC

This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:27 pm to
You didn't answer my question.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:30 pm to
More guns = more gun deaths
MOre Muslims = more death caused by Muslims
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