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Tell the Trump Transition Team about the FAIRtax!
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 1:47 pm
What American doesn't want to be the first generation in a hundred years to see their entire paycheck AND the satisfaction of knowing that we could dissolve the IRS?
Take a moment to tell the Trump Transition Team about how the FAIRtax will MAGA!
Take a moment to tell the Trump Transition Team about how the FAIRtax will MAGA!
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:34 pm to VoxDawg
This could make go from not needing a coat to hammering rail spikes myself.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:43 pm to VoxDawg
quote:He was one of the few R Candidates who was strongly in favor of a progressive tax. He really doesn't need the "Fair tax" nonsense.
Tell the Trump Transition Team about the FAIRtax!
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:45 pm to Five0
It's such a no-brainer, it's not even funny. Half of the issue with illegals is that they're a drain on the system with little-to-no paying back INTO the system. The FAIRtax would dial back a lot of the animosity, because at least while we hope to close the loophole inadvertently created by the 14th Amendment. While they tread water as we deport the dangerous criminal illegals, they pay into the Treasury with every pack of diapers, tortillas and crown air freshener that they can't live without.
Not to mention it expands the tax base from 60M Americans to 300M+.
Not to mention it expands the tax base from 60M Americans to 300M+.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:49 pm to VoxDawg
As someone that is fully on the train and support the Fair Tax I don't believe there is a chance in hell Trump would propose the Fair Tax.
First he didn't campaign on the idea and second he just doesn't have the political capital to pass such a massive idea. Think of the heavy lifting required:
1. A constitutional amendment would have to be passed to give the federal government the authority to tax consumption. Currently the federal government does not have the authority to tax personal consumption. Contitutional amendments are hard.
2. There is no way I could support the Fair Tax that requires a constitutional amendment allowing the government to tax personal consumption without repealing the 16th. There is no way I would support the federal government having the power and authority to tax both personal consumption and income.
I love the Fair Tax idea but it is a HUGE political lift. We would need a HUGE ground swell from the people to make this happen.
First he didn't campaign on the idea and second he just doesn't have the political capital to pass such a massive idea. Think of the heavy lifting required:
1. A constitutional amendment would have to be passed to give the federal government the authority to tax consumption. Currently the federal government does not have the authority to tax personal consumption. Contitutional amendments are hard.
2. There is no way I could support the Fair Tax that requires a constitutional amendment allowing the government to tax personal consumption without repealing the 16th. There is no way I would support the federal government having the power and authority to tax both personal consumption and income.
I love the Fair Tax idea but it is a HUGE political lift. We would need a HUGE ground swell from the people to make this happen.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:50 pm to GumboPot
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2. There is no way I could support the Fair Tax that requires a constitutional amendment allowing the government to tax personal consumption without repealing the 16th. There is no way I would support the federal government having the power and authority to tax both personal consumption and income.
Repeal of the 16th is a required part of both HR 25/ S 155 bills.
Personally, I've always thought a Constitutional Convention would be a better way of accomplishing it. Opponents of the FAIRtax are incapable of arguing the bill without changing the conditions of the bill as written.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:57 pm to VoxDawg
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Opponents of the FAIRtax are incapable of arguing the bill without changing the conditions of the bill as written.
Without fail.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:00 pm to VoxDawg
Zero chance this happens. If it did, I'd lead the push to abolish Amendment XXII for Trump.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
As Neal Boortz was fond of saying, it would be the greatest transference of power since the Declaration of Independence. I honestly don't understand why more folks aren't behind this.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:38 pm to VoxDawg
People are afraid of change. I also don't think a lot of people understand it, or have even heard of it.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:49 pm to VoxDawg
A Fair tax is fine, so long as I consider it fair to me.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:50 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Literally the only thing it doesn't do is play to the lefties' penchant for sticking to the wealthy. They have to have some level of class warfare to operate properly. You would think that wih the prebate wiping out the tax liability for families at or below the poverty level, that they would be lining up to sponsor it.
I honestly think that if Dems had come up wih it, they'd be screaming it from the rooftops to get it passed.
I honestly think that if Dems had come up wih it, they'd be screaming it from the rooftops to get it passed.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:52 pm to VoxDawg
FairTax would kill the real estate and automobile industries. Can you imagine paying over 23% in sales tax every time you bought a new one
I much prefer the flat tax
I much prefer the flat tax
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:21 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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I much prefer the flat tax
If that's the case, and I mean this with all due respect, you don't understand the FairTax.
One of the biggest misconceptions about it is that it's a tax on top of what you're already paying at retail for an item. It's not 22% above what you pay at the register, now. Approximately 21-23% of what you're currently paying for literally EVERYTHING are embedded corporate income taxes which are passed along to consumers from each step in production/distribution. Corporations don't pay income tax, they merely collect it from consumers. When you spend $1.00 for an item, the actual cost of that item, (margin and everything) is about $0.77. Everything else is a sliver of the income taxes that get passed on to the final consumer.
With the passage of the legislation, the IRS is abolished and there is no need for that additional $0.23 for the manufacturer to make exactly the same money they were before. Market forces drive the cost down to the actual price of $0.77, and at the register the NSRT adds the $0.22, so you pay $0.99 for the item that previously cost you $1.
Except that you pay for it out of your entire paycheck which had zero withholding taken before you saw it.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:21 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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Can you imagine paying over 23% in sales tax every time you bought a new one
If it's the only time I'm being taxed on it, absolutely. I'd prefer it. People aren't going to stop buying houses and cars because they're taxed differently.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
They absolutely will. They are going to stay in that car til they can't drive it anymore. Same as with a house. They will stay in that house until they can no longer take it. Thinking that everything is static and we can change variables and keep everything else the same is what liberals do, not us.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:35 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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They absolutely will. They are going to stay in that car til they can't drive it anymore. Same as with a house. They will stay in that house until they can no longer take it.
People that don't have the means, sure.
Don't care if people have to change their spending habits if it gets rid of federally sponsored thievery.
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Thinking that everything is static and we can change variables and keep everything else the same is what liberals do, not us.
Who said keep everything else the same?I know I didn't...
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:42 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
What you're missing is that the tax isn't exclusive to current pricing - it's inclusive to current MSRP. You're paying practically the same price you are under the current tax structure, but you'd be doing it with more available money, since your entire paycheck is take-home.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You said people aren't going to stop buying houses. You're going to tell me the avgerage home owner would own the same number of homes throughout their life with the fair tax as they do today? I don't buy that for a second.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 6:49 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
It's also important to realize that the tax is only paid on brand new goods. Only new homes would be subject to it, and again - it has zero net impact on price from current ranges.
Knowing is half the battle.
Knowing is half the battle.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 6:53 pm
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