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Switzerland: French man convicted of rape for taking condom off

Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:46 pm
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A man has been convicted of rape after taking off a condom during sex without his sexual partner knowing. 

The landmark decision by the Criminal Court in Lausanne, Switzerland, determined that having sex without a condom constituted rape if the use of one was expected. 




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The unnamed man, from France, met a Swiss woman on dating app Tinder. 

On their second date in June 2015 they started having sex with a condom, but the woman only realised it had been removed after it was over. 

The court judged that the woman would have refused to have sex if she had known the condom would be removed



Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:47 pm to
The Julian Assange Law
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:47 pm to
TIL I'm a rapist by Swiss standards
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:49 pm to
Guess Im a serial rapist
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:52 pm to
Spraying guts will forever be changed.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48290 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:55 pm to
I actually don't have a problem with this although I believe it should be a different crime than rape. Something like "contraception fraud." It should also apply to women lying about being on birth control.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6934 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
Liberalism at work.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:03 pm to
I mean, I can't say I disagree. She didn't consent to sex without a condom.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:09 pm to
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I actually don't have a problem with this although I believe it should be a different crime than rape. Something like "contraception fraud." It should also apply to women lying about being on birth control.


Agree.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:12 pm to
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I mean, I can't say I disagree. She didn't consent to sex without a condom.


She consented to sex

What is next?

He lied about having a 9" dick? He said he would go down on me and didn't?

Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:12 pm to
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I mean, I can't say I disagree. She didn't consent to sex without a condom.


So is it rape if a woman lies about being on the pill?
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5682 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:14 pm to
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I mean, I can't say I disagree. She didn't consent to sex without a condom
What he did was wrong, and there's no reason what he did should be OK. But rape?
Posted by Greatest Success
Member since Feb 2017
118 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:16 pm to
If it can be proven that the man put on the condom and took it off without her knowledge, I'm fine with charging him with rape.

But, how was this proven in court?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35458 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:19 pm to
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I actually don't have a problem with this although I believe it should be a different crime than rape. Something like "contraception fraud." It should also apply to women lying about being on birth control.

That's where I am with it. It's a sleazeball move that can medical repercussions beyond pregnancy, but it's not rape.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:24 pm to
What about lying about birth control?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:25 pm to
The swiss
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:28 pm to
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If it can be proven that the man put on the condom and took it off without her knowledge, I'm fine with charging him with rape.

But, how was this proven in court?


Sounds like you don't even need to have one on and take it off, just not have worn one when it was "expected"

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determined that having sex without a condom constituted rape if the use of one was expected.


I suggest wearing a condom in Sweden. A post sex "you wore a condom right" can change your life real quick.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35458 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:32 pm to
The main issue is how do you even prove it? Seems like the guy claiming it came off accidentally is enough for reasonable doubt. I have no clue how the French legal system works, though.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:47 pm to
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She consented to sex

What is next?

He lied about having a 9" dick? He said he would go down on me and didn't?


Christ, you're an idiot.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15627 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:49 pm to
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The unnamed man, from France, met a Swiss woman on dating app Tinder.


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On their second date in June 2015 they started having sex with a condom, but the woman only realised it had been removed after it was over.


There you have it.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:50 pm
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