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Statues Are Not The End Game Of Historical Cleansing...Our Democracy Is On A Timer
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:09 pm
I've said this many times before. Some people refuse to believe it. This historical cleansing is not about the confederacy. At all. That is just one small part of a much larger objective.
You watch. There will be open discussions by people that are considered the leading thinkers of today, people that are considered influential and intelligent, people that are politically powerful, on the renaming of Washington, D.C.
After that, the illegitimacy and lack of moral foundation of our Constitution is next.
I work and have worked with very smart, very influential people every week. People with sway, with abilities, with very impressive degrees and accolades and backgrounds. Things that some of us take for granted are not thought of in the same light. At all. The 1st amendment means shite to them. Many of the foundations of our democracy mean shite to them.
I mentioned recently how I sometimes go back and forth in a litigious but amicable manner with a colleague, a graduate from one of our country's best law schools. Whenever I mention the 1st or 2nd amendments, her response is simply "So what? They [the founders] were wrong. That [amendments] doesn't mean anything to me." She is perfectly fine with using parts of the Constitution that she seems worthy and dismissing or ignoring parts that she doesn't agree with without so much as a stutter.
People better wake up and get a handle on how the democrats, the media, the academia, and the political classes think and just how far they are intending to go.
You watch. There will be open discussions by people that are considered the leading thinkers of today, people that are considered influential and intelligent, people that are politically powerful, on the renaming of Washington, D.C.
After that, the illegitimacy and lack of moral foundation of our Constitution is next.
I work and have worked with very smart, very influential people every week. People with sway, with abilities, with very impressive degrees and accolades and backgrounds. Things that some of us take for granted are not thought of in the same light. At all. The 1st amendment means shite to them. Many of the foundations of our democracy mean shite to them.
I mentioned recently how I sometimes go back and forth in a litigious but amicable manner with a colleague, a graduate from one of our country's best law schools. Whenever I mention the 1st or 2nd amendments, her response is simply "So what? They [the founders] were wrong. That [amendments] doesn't mean anything to me." She is perfectly fine with using parts of the Constitution that she seems worthy and dismissing or ignoring parts that she doesn't agree with without so much as a stutter.
People better wake up and get a handle on how the democrats, the media, the academia, and the political classes think and just how far they are intending to go.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:11 pm to LuckyTiger
John Galt says hello. Ain't like we weren't warned 60 years ago.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:16 pm to LuckyTiger
There is absolutely nothing new with people adopting parts of the constitution as relevant to their worldview. IDGAF how many degrees you have "earned" or what profession you engage in to make a living. There will be no radical changes to the constitution of the United States, nor a ne-naming of the Capital of our country for any small revolutionary/terrorist movement(s).
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:17 pm to CoachDon
Who do you put your faith in to stop it?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:18 pm to CoachDon
Thanks for that reassurance, Coach. See you in the gulog.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:33 pm to CoachDon
quote:
There will be no radical changes to the constitution of the United States, nor a ne-naming of the Capital of our country for any small revolutionary/terrorist movement(s).
Changing the Constitution isn't necessary. For example, there is no need to remove people's right to free speech, as long as everyone will stand by while other people's speech is silenced or marginalized by political correctness, intimidation, threats of violence, or violence itself.
You don't have to change the Constitution to remove a person's right to keep and bear. You can have cities, counties, and even states usurp the Constitution (Chicago, California) making it impossible for people to defend themselves. Or, you can use the power of government and taxpayer dollars to tie up ammo manufacturers, resulting in almost exclusive production for the government. Your gun is just a pretty club without ammo.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:35 pm to LuckyTiger
Anyone looking objectively can see where this is going, regardless if that was the intended destination or not. This is the logic that's brought us to this point:
-These were people that supported slavery so their monuments must be torn down and their names removed from notoriety.
-Anyone that supports keeping them must therefore be the same type of slavery-supporting individuals so they must be met with force.
Now we get to what's already brewing but hasn't quite come to fruition yet:
-These other figures were slave owners so their monuments and names must come down as well (specifically Washington and Jefferson at this point, it won't be long until it's extended to others like Madison, Jay, Adams and even Franklin regardless that he turned Abolitionist and freed his slaves).
-Anyone that supports keeping them must be... etc.
The next logical step in that progression:
-Any works these proponents/supporters of slavery have done must be brought down just like their monuments were because they are tainted with the blood of slaves. This becomes important because the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were written by slave owners thus...
-Anyone that supports keeping those works, even for historical purposes must be a pro-slavery fascist and must be met with force.
Granted, there's a LOT of ground that would have to be covered between where we are and the possible endpoint. There will be those that say we will never get that, but then again many of those same people were saying just months ago that no one would try to do anything to Jackson Square.
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-These were people that supported slavery so their monuments must be torn down and their names removed from notoriety.
-Anyone that supports keeping them must therefore be the same type of slavery-supporting individuals so they must be met with force.
Now we get to what's already brewing but hasn't quite come to fruition yet:
-These other figures were slave owners so their monuments and names must come down as well (specifically Washington and Jefferson at this point, it won't be long until it's extended to others like Madison, Jay, Adams and even Franklin regardless that he turned Abolitionist and freed his slaves).
-Anyone that supports keeping them must be... etc.
The next logical step in that progression:
-Any works these proponents/supporters of slavery have done must be brought down just like their monuments were because they are tainted with the blood of slaves. This becomes important because the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were written by slave owners thus...
-Anyone that supports keeping those works, even for historical purposes must be a pro-slavery fascist and must be met with force.
Granted, there's a LOT of ground that would have to be covered between where we are and the possible endpoint. There will be those that say we will never get that, but then again many of those same people were saying just months ago that no one would try to do anything to Jackson Square.
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‘Take ‘Em Down NOLA’ president Malcolm Suber called for streets such as General Ogden and Jefferson Davis Parkway to be renamed and the monument to President Andrew Jackson, though unassociated with the Confederacy, to come down.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:35 pm to LuckyTiger
A democracy has a limited lifespan from the get-go.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:36 pm to troyt37
Trumps greatest accomplishment will be saving the right from a left court. Trump replaces possibly Kennedy and Ginsburg or Breyer. That in itself will give us the status quo at a minimum for a generation.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:38 pm to CoachDon
quote:
IDGAF how many degrees you have "earned" or what profession you engage in to make a living. There will be no radical changes to the constitution of the United States, nor a ne-naming of the Capital of our country for any small revolutionary/terrorist movement(s).
If you told James Monroe "Someday we'll change this constitution and give women and Negroes the right to vote" he would have said the same reaction as yours above.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:46 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:48 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
Statues Are Not The End Game Of Historical Cleansing...Our Democracy Is On A Timer
Good thing we are a representative republic, and not a democracy.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 12:51 pm to Junky
quote:
Good thing we are a representative republic, and not a democracy.
I wasn't going to go with such a sharp quip, but yes, we're a Republic, not a democracy.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:04 pm to Bard
Your slippery slope argument keeps equating this to a constitutional argument. It is not. These statues are on public land and parks. If a municipality or state does not want it there, no matter its historical significance, it has a right to remove them.
Arguing the removal is well within your right to free speech but the removal itself does not unless it is on your property.
On this flip side, the city of Birmingham has ordered the covering of a confederate monument since the state of Alabama passed a law protecting that statue. There is your Constitutional question. Does the federal government have the right to intervene?
Arguing the removal is well within your right to free speech but the removal itself does not unless it is on your property.
On this flip side, the city of Birmingham has ordered the covering of a confederate monument since the state of Alabama passed a law protecting that statue. There is your Constitutional question. Does the federal government have the right to intervene?
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:13 pm to LuckyTiger
Yeah and when you have idiotic people that have no clue what this man's part in Slavery and America was, and do this to the man that ended Slavery and the War gets this treatment, then what is the end game?
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You have to remember , most of these Democrats arnt very smart to begin with and have no knowledge of the history that their against. Their just followers of a bunch of evil people , using them to bring division to this country!
For those of you that don't want to click on link, a 100 yr old Bust of President Abraham Lincoln was sprayed with something and set on fire.
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You have to remember , most of these Democrats arnt very smart to begin with and have no knowledge of the history that their against. Their just followers of a bunch of evil people , using them to bring division to this country!
For those of you that don't want to click on link, a 100 yr old Bust of President Abraham Lincoln was sprayed with something and set on fire.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:25 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:Its been underway for decades already.
After that, the illegitimacy and lack of moral foundation of our Constitution is next.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:28 pm to LuckyTiger
It will happen a lot faster than we all expect. Think about this. Obama was against gay marriages when he was reelected in 2012. Now we've moved on to trannies.
These monuments weren't an issue till a year ago. It's all part of a plan and they will implement it rapidly.
All of what you say is correct, I'll add that it will happen so fast that we won't even realize it.
These monuments weren't an issue till a year ago. It's all part of a plan and they will implement it rapidly.
All of what you say is correct, I'll add that it will happen so fast that we won't even realize it.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:30 pm to baobabtiger
Your are absolutely correct. Then it will be off to the Books for the SJW's.
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