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Stance on the issues
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:13 pm
There is a lot of liberal vs conservative talk on here but I contend that the two sides aren't that far apart so for the sake of discussion where do you stand on these issues I am including my position and you can consider this my basic platform for my presidential campaign in 2028
Taxes - lower
Welfare/disability/food stamps- reformed must be worked for
Guns - legal no debate
Abortion- I am against it but it should be left to the states
Education- local control no federal involvement
Marijuana - state issue
Private property rights must be supported
Military- bring most of them home and secure our border
Military spending - I want the best but I don't want waste
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish
Farm subsidies limited
National endowment for arts- abolished
That's the major stuff I can think of right now feel free to discuss
Taxes - lower
Welfare/disability/food stamps- reformed must be worked for
Guns - legal no debate
Abortion- I am against it but it should be left to the states
Education- local control no federal involvement
Marijuana - state issue
Private property rights must be supported
Military- bring most of them home and secure our border
Military spending - I want the best but I don't want waste
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish
Farm subsidies limited
National endowment for arts- abolished
That's the major stuff I can think of right now feel free to discuss
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 7:15 pm to Hogules68
President Anti does the following
The Border..use troops to shut it down,provide security so Border Patrol can get a handle on the mess. Shut it down.
Immigration..All illegals must come forward and get photo ID. With it you may keep a job or seek work. Those that have jobs allowed to stay on, the others have to go home,period. Anyone without ID card is charged with a felony. Any level of law enforcement can make said arrests. No fast track to citizenship,get in line and no social services or welfare.
Military..All overseas Army or Marine bases shut down,men and equipment shipped home. We must have the best men and equipment,but waste must be eliminated we have to be efficient. Promises made must be kept,better pay,benefits and the VA must be fixed.
Abortion..states issue.
Education..states issue Feds to issue block grants to help then get the hell out of the way.
Religious Freedom..We are guaranteed Freedom OF Religion, not from it. If you want to pray in school or do a book report on Jesus or Mohammad or whoever,so be it. The Establishment Clause also says nor prohibit the free exercise thereof,which conveniently gets omitted.
Property rights...protected,period.
Economy..Alphabet agencies policies to be reviewed and any that hamper our economy and cost jobs to be gone. The Obama War on Prosperity will be rolled back. We go to a flat tax system and cut the IRS to the bone.We take steps to entice money invested overseas or in banks there home. We want outsourced jobs back. We want industries that have left the country to come home. Our number one goal, more jobs,good paying jobs.
Energy..Drill Baby Drill. Use our abundant resources to the fullest. Build the Keystone Pipeline. Build more refineries ASAP. Nothing wrong with investing in research on new forms of energy but let's use what we have. Mine and sell our coal overseas and reopen the generating plants here,we have clean coal technology and let's get the price of power and fuel down to help our people.
Health Insurance..Obamacare is a cluster it has to go. I appoint a czar,maybe a Mitt Romney to make an all out effort to help those that need to get insurance and to find out how we can lower the cost of health care and prescription drugs for everyone. This has to get done and get done right.
Entitlements. A massive review. Those that need help keep it or get it. Those that have scammed the system are out. No benefits for non citizens. Zero. Reform the system to make sure those that need help get it and we can keep out those that don't, including cleaning out the agencies in charge of it of those that help in the scamming.
New Revenue streams for Social Security and Medicare. Legalize Pot and start a National Lottery, revenue from both earmarked to SS and Medicare. No more stealing from the Trust Fund by Congress and monies Barack Obama stole from Medicare returned.
The Border..use troops to shut it down,provide security so Border Patrol can get a handle on the mess. Shut it down.
Immigration..All illegals must come forward and get photo ID. With it you may keep a job or seek work. Those that have jobs allowed to stay on, the others have to go home,period. Anyone without ID card is charged with a felony. Any level of law enforcement can make said arrests. No fast track to citizenship,get in line and no social services or welfare.
Military..All overseas Army or Marine bases shut down,men and equipment shipped home. We must have the best men and equipment,but waste must be eliminated we have to be efficient. Promises made must be kept,better pay,benefits and the VA must be fixed.
Abortion..states issue.
Education..states issue Feds to issue block grants to help then get the hell out of the way.
Religious Freedom..We are guaranteed Freedom OF Religion, not from it. If you want to pray in school or do a book report on Jesus or Mohammad or whoever,so be it. The Establishment Clause also says nor prohibit the free exercise thereof,which conveniently gets omitted.
Property rights...protected,period.
Economy..Alphabet agencies policies to be reviewed and any that hamper our economy and cost jobs to be gone. The Obama War on Prosperity will be rolled back. We go to a flat tax system and cut the IRS to the bone.We take steps to entice money invested overseas or in banks there home. We want outsourced jobs back. We want industries that have left the country to come home. Our number one goal, more jobs,good paying jobs.
Energy..Drill Baby Drill. Use our abundant resources to the fullest. Build the Keystone Pipeline. Build more refineries ASAP. Nothing wrong with investing in research on new forms of energy but let's use what we have. Mine and sell our coal overseas and reopen the generating plants here,we have clean coal technology and let's get the price of power and fuel down to help our people.
Health Insurance..Obamacare is a cluster it has to go. I appoint a czar,maybe a Mitt Romney to make an all out effort to help those that need to get insurance and to find out how we can lower the cost of health care and prescription drugs for everyone. This has to get done and get done right.
Entitlements. A massive review. Those that need help keep it or get it. Those that have scammed the system are out. No benefits for non citizens. Zero. Reform the system to make sure those that need help get it and we can keep out those that don't, including cleaning out the agencies in charge of it of those that help in the scamming.
New Revenue streams for Social Security and Medicare. Legalize Pot and start a National Lottery, revenue from both earmarked to SS and Medicare. No more stealing from the Trust Fund by Congress and monies Barack Obama stole from Medicare returned.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 12:51 am
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:01 pm to Hogules68
If I were to run for President this would be my platform.
Taxes: Reform to a 2 tier tax system. No tax credits, no tax returns, no incentives for marriage, etc. Each person files individually. 200,000 per year income or less pays 15%. Over 200k you pay 25%. The low income tax rates would also come with a national 3% sales tax on goods, excluding basic necessities such as food, gas, clothes.
Welfare: Reform completely. Food stamps and EBT must be accompanied by an ID to match your card. Only basic goods can be bought...flour, water, tea, sugar, bread, canned goods, basic meats, etc. Also a maximum of 2 kids per family would be supported...any more after that will not receive additional federal help.
Guns: Legal. No gun free zones except Government buildings. Rules regarding weapons on a premises would be left up to the property owner. All weapons, including full auto, could be bought although full auto would require extensive training and mental evaluations. An evaluation would have to be performed every 3 years to renew the permit.
Abortion: States issue.
Education: State controlled, no dept. of Education. Money would be allocated to each state to help pay for it, but no control at the federal level.
Marijuana: Legalize
Military: Peace through strength. Would avoid proxy wars and Middle East involvements unless directly attacked.
Deregulate industries to encourage growth and innovation. Protect the "little man" rather than sell out to Big Corporate interests.
Drill more and become energy independent, while also funding research into new renewable and cleaner energy sources.
Reduce Farm Subsidies to only major natural disaster relief.
Taxes: Reform to a 2 tier tax system. No tax credits, no tax returns, no incentives for marriage, etc. Each person files individually. 200,000 per year income or less pays 15%. Over 200k you pay 25%. The low income tax rates would also come with a national 3% sales tax on goods, excluding basic necessities such as food, gas, clothes.
Welfare: Reform completely. Food stamps and EBT must be accompanied by an ID to match your card. Only basic goods can be bought...flour, water, tea, sugar, bread, canned goods, basic meats, etc. Also a maximum of 2 kids per family would be supported...any more after that will not receive additional federal help.
Guns: Legal. No gun free zones except Government buildings. Rules regarding weapons on a premises would be left up to the property owner. All weapons, including full auto, could be bought although full auto would require extensive training and mental evaluations. An evaluation would have to be performed every 3 years to renew the permit.
Abortion: States issue.
Education: State controlled, no dept. of Education. Money would be allocated to each state to help pay for it, but no control at the federal level.
Marijuana: Legalize
Military: Peace through strength. Would avoid proxy wars and Middle East involvements unless directly attacked.
Deregulate industries to encourage growth and innovation. Protect the "little man" rather than sell out to Big Corporate interests.
Drill more and become energy independent, while also funding research into new renewable and cleaner energy sources.
Reduce Farm Subsidies to only major natural disaster relief.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:58 pm to Hogules68
Taxes - FairTax
Welfare - not indefinite more investigation of individual cases. Severe punishments for abuse.
Guns - legal no restrictions
Abortion - state issue
Education - state level taxes with the parents choice of where to spend the taxes ie school choice with no restrictions. Feds out of the student loan business.
Marijuana - state issue
Private Property - state and federal protections
Military - on the borders and on bases with our allies, if a country wants our help without a treaty we are paid in gold or resources up front. All future treaties include stipulations for payment up front.
Welfare - not indefinite more investigation of individual cases. Severe punishments for abuse.
Guns - legal no restrictions
Abortion - state issue
Education - state level taxes with the parents choice of where to spend the taxes ie school choice with no restrictions. Feds out of the student loan business.
Marijuana - state issue
Private Property - state and federal protections
Military - on the borders and on bases with our allies, if a country wants our help without a treaty we are paid in gold or resources up front. All future treaties include stipulations for payment up front.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:16 pm to Hogules68
Anyone who discusses "welfare" on the Internet and talks about EBT cards and two-children policies and not about Social Security and Medicare needs to be given the Ludovico treatment with a pie chart of the federal budget.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:33 pm to Hogules68
quote:
Taxes - Same, if not higher
Welfare/disability/food stamps- Okay as it is now; it's not as abused as people make it out to be
Guns - (legal no debate) The issues was never about making guns illegal (except for assault rifles) but mostly background checks and the like
Abortion- Should be offered for every woman, funded through the federal government
Education- Need more federal control; part of the reason schools are failing is that there aren't any standard guidelines (there's Common Core, but it's extremely vague and you can't really enforce it)
Marijuana - Should be legalized on the federal level
Private property- meh
Military- Bring most back
Military spending - Reduce spending
Free enterprise and capitalism shouldn't come at the cost of those at the bottom
Farm subsidies limited
National endowment for arts- support
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:44 pm to Hogules68
Taxes - bare essential to serve the few necessary collective needs like national defense, traffic infrastructure, schools and law enforcement.
Welfare/disability/food stamps - needs to be eliminated/drastically reduced
Guns - legal and any gun that can be purchased by a federal agency, private citizens should have access to.
Abortion - should be legal with moderate restrictions and not funded by the gov't
Education - local control and eliminate federal dept. of education
Military - end all wars and put them on the border to secure it
Military spending - reduce spending by 40-45% and build up the navy by adding two more carriers.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish, gov 't must not interfere and politicians refraining from crony capitalism.
Farm subsidies abolished.
Drugs - legalized and war on drugs ended on federal level to get the ball rolling on the state level.
Private property - respected and protected along with economic freedom of association.
Welfare/disability/food stamps - needs to be eliminated/drastically reduced
Guns - legal and any gun that can be purchased by a federal agency, private citizens should have access to.
Abortion - should be legal with moderate restrictions and not funded by the gov't
Education - local control and eliminate federal dept. of education
Military - end all wars and put them on the border to secure it
Military spending - reduce spending by 40-45% and build up the navy by adding two more carriers.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish, gov 't must not interfere and politicians refraining from crony capitalism.
Farm subsidies abolished.
Drugs - legalized and war on drugs ended on federal level to get the ball rolling on the state level.
Private property - respected and protected along with economic freedom of association.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:50 pm to Sentrius
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Military spending - reduce spending by 40-45% and build up the navy by adding two more carriers.
We should end the self imposed limitation of weaponizing space. Before someone else does (if it has not already happened).
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:51 pm to Sentrius
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end all wars
quote:I'm lost, help me out here.
build up the navy by adding two more carriers.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:54 pm to Five0
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We should end the self imposed limitation of weaponizing space. Before someone else does (if it has not already happened).
More funding to NASA is the way to go in this regard. It's criminal how we are neglecting a great department that has spurred so much innovation and lead to the comfortable lives and technology that we have today.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:54 pm to Sentrius
quote:
It's criminal how we are neglecting a great department that has spurred so much innovation and lead to the comfortable lives and technology that we have today.
and mate.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:58 pm to Iosh
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I'm lost, help me out here.
It's about defense and current and future trends.
Ending foreign conflicts is giving up a role that has harmed us drastically since we took it up and have no business continuing. Being the world's policeman.
Having a large standing military is an outdated model of defense and it's not needed at all. We need to slash DOD spending by 42-45% and close bases that we have no business of having. The above also includes downsizing the army to a small and efficient level, maintaining a robust, lethal and moderately sized marine corps and air force and maintaining and building a very large and powerful navy with a few more carrier battlegroups.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:03 pm to Gladius Veritas
quote:
Gladius Veritas
If I was your father, I'd beat the stupid out of you.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:07 pm to Hogules68
Taxes - lower, flat rate
Welfare/disability/food stamps- We should fund food banks. These are places for the poor to go get necessities. Screw the EBT card where they can buy whatever they want. It shouldn't be easy to be poor and able-bodied.
Guns - protect us from a tyrannical government. The "for hunting" argument is silly.
Abortion- I am against it but it should be left to the states
Education- local control no federal involvement
Marijuana - state issue
Private property rights must be supported
Military- bring most of them home and secure our border
Military spending - I want the best but I don't want waste... audit the military. It is a bureaucracy just like any other government program.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish
Farm subsidies limited
National endowment for arts- abolished
Welfare/disability/food stamps- We should fund food banks. These are places for the poor to go get necessities. Screw the EBT card where they can buy whatever they want. It shouldn't be easy to be poor and able-bodied.
Guns - protect us from a tyrannical government. The "for hunting" argument is silly.
Abortion- I am against it but it should be left to the states
Education- local control no federal involvement
Marijuana - state issue
Private property rights must be supported
Military- bring most of them home and secure our border
Military spending - I want the best but I don't want waste... audit the military. It is a bureaucracy just like any other government program.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish
Farm subsidies limited
National endowment for arts- abolished
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:10 pm to Sentrius
I forgot to add these two...
quote:
Drugs - legalized and war on drugs ended on federal level to get the ball rolling on the state level.
Private property - respected and protected along with economic and private freedom of association.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:33 pm to Sentrius
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It's about defense and current and future trends.
I understand everything in your post except the last part. How are carrier groups relevant to a non-interventionist foreign policy? They exist exclusively to project force overseas. They're also incredibly expensive to build and maintain.
And it's an open question whether they're even a good investment against modern ballistic missile systems and stealth tech. From a sheer diversification standpoint, we already have more of the things than every other country combined.
Does it make sense to build more? I would think if you want a defensive navy you're better off investing in submarines, or a shitload of destroyers.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:37 pm to Iosh
I can see them as an alternative to the foreign base overseas.
With the way we are developing technology, ballistic missiles are not an issue or soon will not be an issue. As far as stealth, it is an asset no doubt, but sometimes you want to be seen. I think we have lost more tech on stealth than the rest of the world has developed on its own. No cite for that, just a gut feeling.
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And it's an open question whether they're even a good investment against modern ballistic missile systems and stealth tech.
With the way we are developing technology, ballistic missiles are not an issue or soon will not be an issue. As far as stealth, it is an asset no doubt, but sometimes you want to be seen. I think we have lost more tech on stealth than the rest of the world has developed on its own. No cite for that, just a gut feeling.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:47 pm to Hogules68
Taxes - Flat tax. Pick your rate.
Welfare/disability/food stamps - Disability needs to be expanded...others need to be tied to work programs
Guns - limited. The right to bear arms does not mean the right to bear bazookas. The NRA is very wrong on this issue.
Abortion - Legal through the first 12 weeks (shocked?)
Education - Federal government needs to expand it's roll and would under my administration.
Military - No American boys should be fighting for the "freedom" of any foreign person. You can't give freedom to people. Reference Iraq.
Military spending - Roll the Marines into the Army. Cut the army back to pre WW2 levels. When you have a standing army you tend to use it in places like Iraq. Double the size of the Navy and Air Force.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish,kill all corporate welfare. time to tax these frickers.
Drugs - legalized and war on drugs ended on federal level to get the ball rolling on the state level.
Time to follow Washington's view on treaties and leave things like Nato. There is no Russian bear to speak of...
Welfare/disability/food stamps - Disability needs to be expanded...others need to be tied to work programs
Guns - limited. The right to bear arms does not mean the right to bear bazookas. The NRA is very wrong on this issue.
Abortion - Legal through the first 12 weeks (shocked?)
Education - Federal government needs to expand it's roll and would under my administration.
Military - No American boys should be fighting for the "freedom" of any foreign person. You can't give freedom to people. Reference Iraq.
Military spending - Roll the Marines into the Army. Cut the army back to pre WW2 levels. When you have a standing army you tend to use it in places like Iraq. Double the size of the Navy and Air Force.
Free enterprise and capitalism must flourish,kill all corporate welfare. time to tax these frickers.
Drugs - legalized and war on drugs ended on federal level to get the ball rolling on the state level.
Time to follow Washington's view on treaties and leave things like Nato. There is no Russian bear to speak of...
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:56 pm to Iosh
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Iosh
Like Five0 said, they're good alternatives to foreign bases that do nothing but cause resentment in the native country.
The navy of today has 270 ships. It's kind of a little too small for the huge mission it's being asked to do right now, especially when you factor in that deployments last as long as 10 months. A time range like that is hard on equipment and personnel. We're using 10 carrier groups at a time, that's two short of what we really need.
One good reason why it's impossible to invade this country is that you have a powerful navy patrolling the shores of its homeland and protecting us from the rest of the world. We don't need a large and giant army in today's times. The navy and the air force are the future as far as defending this country goes. The navy is the tip of the sword.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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If I was your father, I'd beat the stupid out of you.
you're too nice
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