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re: Spin-off from the MSB: Flat-Earth Truthers
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:36 pm to TN Bhoy
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:36 pm to TN Bhoy
I find it interesting that the few flat-earthers are derided for believing nonsense by essentially everyone, but young earth creationism and global warming denial are seen as legitimate beliefs by tens of millions around the world.
Scientifically, they are all equally absurd beliefs. And before some of you who don't read no good lose your small minds, I said global warming, not AGW.
Scientifically, they are all equally absurd beliefs. And before some of you who don't read no good lose your small minds, I said global warming, not AGW.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:38 pm to Heyes
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Heyes
All valid questions. Asking these questions does not make one a bigot, anti semite or jew hater. You cited evidence. Yet people will attack you for rejecting evidence.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:39 pm to goldennugget
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I hate how you aren't allowed to ask questions about anything. Not allowed to ask questions that question an official narrative. Can't question the moon landing. Can't question the earth's shape. Can't question 9/11. Can't question the holocaust. Can't question mass shootings. Nope you must take every official narrative at full face value, even if there are some good questions/holes/coincidences that need to be addressed.
The problem is you're asking questions which already have extensively well understood answers. Then, you ignore those answers and keeping asking the same questions.
That's not being inquisitive, it's willful ignorance and denial.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The problem is you're asking questions which already have extensively well understood answers. Then, you ignore those answers and keeping asking the same questions.
Answer Heyes's questions then if its so settled.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:41 pm to goldennugget
You are right to ask them. I bought in to the whole holocaust b s until I finally started using my brain to do some arithmetic when it comes to the holocaust. I am not anti Semitic. Here is one ... at Treblinka the population the size of Baton Rouge was supposedly gassed and then buried. Then has the Germans were losing the war they were told to dig up the bodies and burn cremate them over railroad ties like a BBQ grill . 750000 bodies buried in a mass grave ? That's a big mass grave. Especially when ground penetrating radar show the area for the most part is undisturbed . Secondly , you can't cremate a human body over an open flame. You can char it , blacken it . Disfigure it. But not cremate . It isn't hot enough and bodies don't burn on their own. They would have had to chop down the Ardennes forest and use all that wood and still wouldn't have gotten the bodies to be cremated . Go get a whole chicken and put it on your grill and see if you can cremate it. Might want to buy a pallet of charcoal before you start though
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:44 pm to goldennugget
Ahhh the gold ol' "I don't believe in flat earth, I'm just asking questions (that way I don't have to justify in of my insane bullshite)" line of logic.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:45 pm to Heyes
Cremation ovens work slowly because bodies are 60% water. That's why it takes so long to burn them. Today's ovens take an hour to cremate a body. And that's modern technology that burns much hotter than the ovens used in the 1940s. And you can't stack bodies either. That only overwhelms the ovens, and since bodies are 60% water, it still takes an hour to do.
A lot of supposed death camps have been revealed not to have actually been death camps over the years. Even official holocaust historians admit places like Dachau were not death camps, despite for decades being labelled as death camps, and being referred to as such in the Nuremberg Trials.
If anyone tells you their grandfather liberated a death camp they are lying unless their grandfather was a Soviet. Only Soviets liberated the death camps.
A lot of supposed death camps have been revealed not to have actually been death camps over the years. Even official holocaust historians admit places like Dachau were not death camps, despite for decades being labelled as death camps, and being referred to as such in the Nuremberg Trials.
If anyone tells you their grandfather liberated a death camp they are lying unless their grandfather was a Soviet. Only Soviets liberated the death camps.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:45 pm to goldennugget
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If they were answered I wouldnt be asking them
Every question you've ever asked can be answered in 10 seconds on Google. Ignoring the answers doesn't nullify their existence.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:47 pm to goldennugget
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If they were answered I wouldnt be asking them
Like the flying over Antarctica question?
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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but young earth creationism
I miss beejon
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:51 pm to goldennugget
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Even official holocaust historians admit places like Dachau were not death camps
Who has ever claimed that Dachau was a death camp?
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:54 pm to Uncle Stu
My body is ready for another 200 pages.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:56 pm to goldennugget
Well , the sovietsv hated the Germans like nobody else . I don't believe any were death camps as we have been taught. . Did Jews die because of disease or starvation , absolutely. But was there a systematic killing operation ? I don't think so . One other camp was Majdanek at the conclusion of the war and at the war crimes trial at nuremburg 2 million people were gassed there . Today the museum at Majdanek says 78000 people died there. That's the official number by Majdanek . Also it is illegal in fourteen countries to even question the holocaust by penalty of prison . One such thing you could go to jail for questioning is the killing by the Germans of 20000 polish officers in the Kitayen forest. Germans were tried and convicted of this at nuremburg. After the fall of Soviet Union the Russians admitted they killed the polish officers
Posted on 2/18/17 at 5:59 pm to Heyes
I'm glad we went ahead and pushed past "I'm just asking questions."
Congratulations on just admitting that.
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I don't believe any were death camps as we have been taught.
Congratulations on just admitting that.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:00 pm to northshorebamaman
The United States government made a documentary about the death camp at dacchau after the war. Including the stories of shrunken heads , human lampshades ,Jews turned into bar soap. All of this has since been withdrawn by our government
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:03 pm to Heyes
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You are right about ignoring evidence. Like how long does it take to cremate a body if we are to believe six million were sent up in smoke. Aushwitz number two. The death camp. Fifteen cremation ovens. It takes an hour for every hundred pounds of flesh to cremate a human being. Do the math. If you could do one per hour 24 hours per day. 360 in a day. 2520 in a week 131200 in a year. Aushwitz number two open from spring. 1942 to fall 43. IF You believe the Germans were actually gassing people and cremating them , that's only 190000 or so people. A far cry from the four million they claimed until 1986, or the 1. 5 million they claimed in late 80's. Or the 1 million they now claim. Incidentally, if the total is six million after the war and four million were from aushwitz , and now that figure at Aushwitz is 1 million , why hasn't the total dropped by three million. When I went to school 6 million minus three million left three million . However when it comes to the holocaust six million minus three million is still six million! Interesting how that works
Ignoring that nowhere close to all 6 million were cremated (we still find mass graves in Eastern Europe almost annually) and that the crematoriums even within the same camp often had a wide variably in temperature due to being hastily built and poorly maintained, the claim was never that four million Jews died at Auswitz II. The claim was that around 4 million TOTAL were killed between all three Auswitz camps, a lie created by the communist rulers of Poland who claimed over 2 million non-Jews were also killed there.
Do without going any deeper, we can summarily dismiss your entire post because it's most basic premise is a lie.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:05 pm to goldennugget
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Answer Heyes's questions then if its so settled.
Hell, I didn't even need to Google it
That's how far behind you are the rest of the class
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:13 pm to goldennugget
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A lot of supposed death camps have been revealed not to have actually been death camps over the years. Even official holocaust historians admit places like Dachau were not death camps, despite for decades being labelled as death camps, and being referred to as such in the Nuremberg Trials.
190,000 people were killed at Dachau, you can call it whatever you like.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:14 pm to CorporateTiger
Like I said I believed everything about the holocaust and I mean everything ! Watched every Hitler documentary wondering how such an evil man could gain power I used to laugh and ridicule people who denied it happened . It wasn't an overnight awakening
Did you know that Zyclon b was the pesticide in that region for the body louse which caused typhus ( typhus was responsible for many deaths including that of Anne Frank) Prisoners would be made to undress upon arrival so their Clothes could be fumigated . Hydrogen cyanide( zyclon b ) also bonds to the walls in concrete changing it permanently chemically and color wise. It turns the walls Prussian blue . The walls of the so called gas chambers contained no evidence of cyanide. The little room where the clothes were fumigated has the walls turning blue all the way to the outside of the bricks
Did you know that Zyclon b was the pesticide in that region for the body louse which caused typhus ( typhus was responsible for many deaths including that of Anne Frank) Prisoners would be made to undress upon arrival so their Clothes could be fumigated . Hydrogen cyanide( zyclon b ) also bonds to the walls in concrete changing it permanently chemically and color wise. It turns the walls Prussian blue . The walls of the so called gas chambers contained no evidence of cyanide. The little room where the clothes were fumigated has the walls turning blue all the way to the outside of the bricks
Posted on 2/18/17 at 6:18 pm to Heyes
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But was there a systematic killing operation ? I don't think so
We literally have PICTURES AND VIDEO FOOTAGE of those in the camps undergoing mass executions and being marched to gas chambers. We have testimony from THOUSANDS of Jews and non-Jews who were physically liberated from the camps of the events which occurred. Why would homosexuals, gypsies, Soviet POWs, etc. ALL come up with the same lies to inflate the number of Jews killed?
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