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re: Some interesting callers on the "Savage Nation" this afternoon concerning Las Vegas.

Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6461 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:56 pm to
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Two different fields of fire;


I disagree. There is really no difference. The windows are at different angles, sure, but one is not different from a shooters perspective.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
3536 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:17 pm to
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appears to be the number 13 on his neck, is it a tattoo?


Danzig fan.

Opening - Hangover.

In Las Vegas

This is a setup by Mr. Chow.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 pm to
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I guess the man was obviously a complete lunatic but why would someone who is going to do this kind of shite get different caliber weapons? Keep it simple and have 10 of the same model that are reliable and use the same rounds rather that several different calibers and types of weapons
Cause he was fricking crazy.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:56 pm to
Grassy knoll?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:09 pm to
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If you look around next time you are walking around in a crowded setting- how many people around you do you trust to accurately take in, process, and accurately relay conclusions from complex data in a high pressure situation?



And when the establishment fake news tries to tell you what to believe, will you believe it?
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:17 pm to
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DNA and finger prints on the guns, etc. will tell the story.


There's no guarantee any of us will be told this information with 100% accuracy.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:21 pm to
Did you buy anything that he sales to get your pecker hard.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:24 pm to
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There's interesting side by side photos of Paddock, one where's he's with a lady and he has the shot glass with his eyes closed, in that photo there appears to be the number 13 on his neck, is it a tattoo? The other picture is his hotel suicide and the number 13 is not visible on his neck so either it was not a tattoo or the picture in the hotel is not far enough down his neck to see the 13.



Maybe he's a gun runner and sympathizer for MS-13?



Well. You just never know.


Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27874 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:06 am to
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Clearly we can see fire coming from the 32nd floor and also from around the 4th floor.

No

The 4th floor flashing is coming from a strobe light. Its still flashing as we post. And there are no broken windows on any other floor.

He also was targeting airport fuel tanks, which is why he had to break out the other window

He had blocked all the stair wells. And had cameras in his room and in the hallway. The police were using the elevators. So if there was another person up there, they would have been caught on video, and in the elevator trying to escape
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:24 am to
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Even the police weren't initially sure which hotel they were coming from. If you listen to the tape that is clear.


45 seconds after the first calls came over the radio a cop said it was mandalay bay, on the side closest to the fair grounds, high up.

45 seconds.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77945 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:54 am to
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avage Nation caller claims she heard two different guns firing together during Las Vegas massacre

Why is it so hard to believe he wasn't set up to fire 2 at the same time?

They were on tripods and he was looking to maximize carnage so is it a stretch to think he might have used both hands?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 5:56 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:13 am to
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disagree. There is really no difference. The windows are at different angles, sure, but one is not different from a shooters perspective


It's hard to rationalize the actions of a lunatic but I'm with you, when you have the firepower he had one window opening would have caused just as much carnage as two openings.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:17 am to
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No The 4th floor flashing is coming from a strobe light. Its still flashing as we post. And there are no broken windows on any other floor. He also was targeting airport fuel tanks, which is why he had to break out the other window He had blocked all the stair wells. And had cameras in his room and in the hallway. The police were using the elevators. So if there was another person up there, they would have been caught on video, and in the elevator trying to escape


Probably the most incredulous part of this insanity is the fact hotel surveillance never caught on to any of his unusual activities. Vegas is the most over surveiled city in the US.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45984 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:22 am to
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Why is it so hard to believe he wasn't set up to fire 2 at the same time? They were on tripods and he was looking to maximize carnage so is it a stretch to think he might have used both hands?


I agree that's a good possibility, it's the duration of the continuous fire weapon that I'm curious about. I would like the length of time that weapon was discharging, if its more than 7 seconds the weapons in the hotel photos don't appear to have that capacity
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:47 am to
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Eye witness accounts are notoriously inaccurate.


And the news is notorious about lying and distorting the truth.

Odds are eye witness accounts are more accurate than folks are lead to believe. Until recently in this country the mass public had blind trust in the media and it was super easy to produce lies about a story that contradict first hand testimony but as long as the media ignored the witnesses and kept running the lies, the public bought it.

These days the people are sharing the first hand testimony themselves and proving the media liars over and over.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27809 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:52 am to
He may have broken another window to help ventilation.
Shooting that many rounds in a room,it's bound to get thick in there.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:53 am to
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He may have broken another window to help ventilation.
Shooting that many rounds in a room,it's bound to get thick in there.


They are different rooms.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:58 am to
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I disagree. There is really no difference.
Then you would be wrong. Look again at the pictures. He may have broken out the one to the left first and then determined he needed to break the second one (to the right) to get a clearer shot. You make mistakes when you are preparing a fighting position, particularly if you are not familiar with basic tactics.

Let the investigation unfold.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:02 am to
I don't understand how people enjoy Michael Savage
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27809 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:08 am to
There was a connecting door right?
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