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So, the US government wants to train workers via apprenticeship when unions have been doin
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:29 pm
that since their inception.
With private funds.
Why am I tired of paying people to educate themselves on the job to earn a living with my taxes?
With private funds.
Why am I tired of paying people to educate themselves on the job to earn a living with my taxes?
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:33 pm to GoT1de
Maybe so they will one day get off your tax dollars and start paying thier own.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:34 pm to GoT1de
As I recall, it was not easy to get in a Union; almost had to know somebody. When the work is aplenty, yeah, pay for a permit...but when it's scarce, they guard the gate. And work becomes scarce, because in many instances, they price themselves way over their productive worth. I know. I worked with them. Kinda like the VA; almost impossible to fire a slacker.
BTW, whatever works...and gets people on the job. Trump should get Mike Rowe in His Circle. Smart guy.
BTW, whatever works...and gets people on the job. Trump should get Mike Rowe in His Circle. Smart guy.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:34 pm to GoT1de
Do you know the details of the EO, or are you simply projecting with no knowledge? I personally do not know, so I am asking with genuine interest.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:35 pm to GoT1de
This is such a good strategy because it will help us win the Hispanic vote
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:35 pm to GoT1de
Put yourself in other's shoes.
Just an example:
Here in NC, we lost our textile industry seemingly overnight several years ago. I don't have a problem with training these people to perform other jobs.
Some people need help. I'm okay with help, not paying for them for the remainder of their life. I think most agree that welfare and other govt assistance is supposed to be temporary.
Just an example:
Here in NC, we lost our textile industry seemingly overnight several years ago. I don't have a problem with training these people to perform other jobs.
Some people need help. I'm okay with help, not paying for them for the remainder of their life. I think most agree that welfare and other govt assistance is supposed to be temporary.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:35 pm to GoT1de
Turning hard working people against unions is another one of the greatest tricks the Republican Party ever did.
Ask any baw and he'll tell you he's a maker, not a taker.
The truth is, about 1% of us are makers. The rest should have never forgotten where they come from.
Ask any baw and he'll tell you he's a maker, not a taker.
The truth is, about 1% of us are makers. The rest should have never forgotten where they come from.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:37 pm to GoT1de
quote:
train workers via apprenticeship
has been being done forever
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when unions have been doin
that since their inception.
long before "unions" ever came about
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:37 pm to GoT1de
In the press conference on this topic last week, the plan was to foster private-private programs between companies and education institutions. It did not call for the govt to spend money and the overall budget for that department was set to decrease.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:44 pm to GoT1de
quote:unions mostly responsible for the destruction of manufacturing in the us. They are a pyramid scheme that is great as long as you are not at the bottom of, where your job is just a bargaining chip to get the higher ups better pensions and more time off. They served their purpose as far as worker safety long ago, now there are so many regulations that govern worker treatment that they are completely unnecessary. Now they just make everything more expensive, hurt productivity. My dad worked for the phone company after he retired from the airforce. He got threatened more than once by other guys in the Union for working too hard, and not wanting to go along we the rest of them on a couple strikes. He just wanted to do his job, and you had multiple 30 year olds threatening to beat up a 60 year old man. I lived in Northeast Ohio for several years after college and the unions had completely raped the industry there. It was common practice to be laid off for 4 months out of the year even if you had a job, so some guy could get paid $40/hour to pull a lever
unions
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:44 pm to GoT1de
Unions are bureaucratic power organizations whose root purpose has expired long ago. They have made themselves a totally political entity and in doing so signed their own expiration certificate. My uncle is the president of the AFL-CIO for the state of LA, trust me when I say they do not educate many in apprenticeship's and they discriminate vigorously to those who don't "join their club" and pay membership dues of which the majority go to Democratic candidates for political office. Unions have made their own bed, now they have to lay in it!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:48 pm to MamouTiger65
Thank you for your reply.
As often happens, the media, ( LINK) differs.
As often happens, the media, ( LINK) differs.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:53 pm to RFK
quote:
The truth is, about 1% of us are makers. The rest should have never forgotten where they come from.
That's the good ole American entrepreneurial spirit!!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:54 pm to RFK
bullshite
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:54 pm to GoT1de
It's always mindboggling what hand outs liberals love and which ones they don't.
I thought they were for free education, no? Is this just a red team / blue team thing?
I thought they were for free education, no? Is this just a red team / blue team thing?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:56 pm to Andychapman13
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trust me when I say they do not educate many
I don't trust you.
Union education is continuous.
Your uncle may be one of the crooks that made his living from being scum, but he would not be elected these days.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:58 pm to narddogg81
quote:
unions mostly responsible for the destruction of manufacturing in the us. They are a pyramid scheme that is great as long as you are not at the bottom of, where your job is just a bargaining chip to get the higher ups better pensions and more time off. They served their purpose as far as worker safety long ago, now there are so many regulations that govern worker treatment that they are completely unnecessary. Now they just make everything more expensive, hurt productivity. My dad worked for the phone company after he retired from the airforce. He got threatened more than once by other guys in the Union for working too hard, and not wanting to go along we the rest of them on a couple strikes. He just wanted to do his job, and you had multiple 30 year olds threatening to beat up a 60 year old man. I lived in Northeast Ohio for several years after college and the unions had completely raped the industry there. It was common practice to be laid off for 4 months out of the year even if you had a job, so some guy could get paid $40/hour to pull a lever
I regret that I have but none upvote to give to this comment.
I have run two companies with unions. In both cases, the unions largely served to limit the opportunities of it members. New people could not be inserted into new work areas, no matter how much better trained they were FOR THAT WORK than someone else with seniority. Buy a new 6-axis CNC machine center and hire a someone straight out of a school specially for it? Have to let the guy running the 10-year old NC have first shot at it. Means you get less productivity, and probably lose the hire. I have many other examples, including that Union's in-house benefits program were less rewarding than what was offered to non-union members.
They really are private-industry communism.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:04 pm to RFK
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Turning hard working people against unions is another one of the greatest tricks the Republican Party ever did.
Unions are basically offshoots of organized crime or government. They basically force its members to give them money for immediate gain that turns into ruination of the industry or trade. Just like government ponzi schemes. Can you name 1 positive thing that unions have done to aid...not its upper level administration members or rank and file... but society in general, in the last 40 years?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:05 pm to GoT1de
Isn't this a policy that HRC ran on?
Is this not a policy the GOP was against last summer?
This seems like something the freedom caucus would oppose.
Is this not a policy the GOP was against last summer?
This seems like something the freedom caucus would oppose.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:05 pm to RFK
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The truth is, about 1% of us are makers.
And the unions are takers.
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