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So now the leftist fallback position is that Trumps people were legally surveilled?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:23 pm
bullshite
And None of it was Russian related. It was purely a fishing expedition. And the exact reason the FBI and CIA haven't cooperated with the IC Committee since Trumps tweet
And None of it was Russian related. It was purely a fishing expedition. And the exact reason the FBI and CIA haven't cooperated with the IC Committee since Trumps tweet
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:24 pm to RobbBobb
Full disclosure to the US public is only way out of this now.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:24 pm to RobbBobb
Yeah this whole Russians thing is a shite show
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:26 pm to RobbBobb
I would say that they've painted themselves into a corner, but Trump is the one holding the paint brush.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:27 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
now the leftist fallback position is that Trumps people were legally surveilled?
Yup.
Like I said earlier the progression has been entertaining to watch.
1st it was... Wiretaps don't be ridiculous
Then... Well Flynn was associated with the Russians, so of course Wiretaps
Then... Well at least they didn't wiretap Trump Tower
Then... Well they only tapped Trump Tower because it had Russians in it
Finally... Well they had FISA court warrants to do so, so he must be guilty of something (mind you FISA is not a criminal court)
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:28 pm to RobbBobb
Uh. No. Let's review:
There are at least 4 inaccuracies in that tweet. That is "the position".
You're the one moving the goalpost to redefine "wiretapping", ignore the fact that Obama had nothing to do with it, pretend "nothing was found" when you don't know and acting like the McCarthyism part is anything other than moronic.
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Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
There are at least 4 inaccuracies in that tweet. That is "the position".
You're the one moving the goalpost to redefine "wiretapping", ignore the fact that Obama had nothing to do with it, pretend "nothing was found" when you don't know and acting like the McCarthyism part is anything other than moronic.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:29 pm to RobbBobb
A political rival was spied on during an election year. It being legal won't help much.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:30 pm to a want
quote:
There are at least 4 inaccuracies in that tweet. That is "the position".
You're the one moving the goalpost to redefine "wiretapping", ignore the fact that Obama had nothing to do with it, pretend "nothing was found" when you don't know and acting like the McCarthyism part is anything other than moronic.
Uh. No. BTFO.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:32 pm to NYNolaguy1
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mind you FISA is not a criminal court)
Nope. Rubber stamp court for Obama.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:33 pm to RobbBobb
Just like their IRS persecution of the Tea Party was *legal*.
This ship has sailed. From the day of Trump's infamous and damning Tweet...everybody knew Obama KNEW of this crap and approved it...whether or not he *ordered* it or not. Just like the low-life Clinton..."depends on what the meaning of the word is...is".
This BS gave us Trump...and it'll give us a 'Hitler' if people don't get honest.
This ship has sailed. From the day of Trump's infamous and damning Tweet...everybody knew Obama KNEW of this crap and approved it...whether or not he *ordered* it or not. Just like the low-life Clinton..."depends on what the meaning of the word is...is".
This BS gave us Trump...and it'll give us a 'Hitler' if people don't get honest.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:39 pm to RobbBobb
Um....if it's Manafort and Flynn who were being legally surveilled I think there is probably a pretty good justification.
If there wasn't Spicer wouldn't have lied to try and distance the Campaign and Administration from them. When you want to try and justify Trump's delusional tweet "Obama tapped my phones in October" you don't characterize the possible targets of surveillance as "someone with a limited role" (Longtime Campaign Manager Manafort) and a "campaign volunteer" (Campaign Foriegn Policy aide, convention speaker and one time National Security Adviser Michael "Ol Turk" Flynn)
If there wasn't Spicer wouldn't have lied to try and distance the Campaign and Administration from them. When you want to try and justify Trump's delusional tweet "Obama tapped my phones in October" you don't characterize the possible targets of surveillance as "someone with a limited role" (Longtime Campaign Manager Manafort) and a "campaign volunteer" (Campaign Foriegn Policy aide, convention speaker and one time National Security Adviser Michael "Ol Turk" Flynn)
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:41 pm to RCDfan1950
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This ship has sailed. From the day of Trump's infamous and damning Tweet...everybody knew Obama KNEW of this crap and approved it...whether or not he *ordered* it or not.
No, I think what everyone "knew" is that Trump is a delusional paranoid who reads the Breitbart stories his caretakers print out for him.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:41 pm to montanagator
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.if it's Manafort and Flynn who were being legally surveilled I think there is probably a pretty good justification.
But aren't their ties to Russia? And weren't we told once again, this had nothing to do with Russia?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:44 pm to RobbBobb
Our position has never changed:
-Trump's claim that Obama made him the subject of surveillance of any kind is flat out false
What has changed?
-Trump's claim that Obama made him the subject of surveillance of any kind is flat out false
What has changed?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:48 pm to montanagator
quote:
Um....if it's Manafort and Flynn who were being legally surveilled I think there is probably a pretty good justification.
Do you just choose to be the most ignorant poster on the board, or is there a mental handicap that I need to be accepting of
Nunes said:
The surveillance was delivered to the WH
The surveillance had nothing to do with Russia
There were several staffers, and multiple incidences of surveillance
He was VERY ALARMED at the situation, even if legal
The FBI and CIA quit cooperating right after Trump tweeted
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:50 pm to RobbBobb
Obama is master of all he surveills
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:55 pm to Lg
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But aren't their ties to Russia? And weren't we told once again, this had nothing to do with Russia?
Manafort has ties to way, way more sketchy people than just the Russians- this is a guy who was investigated for being behind a Middle Eastern arms dealer's bribery of a French President in order to okay the sale of Submarines to Pakistan, his first fricking client as a lobbyist was the Dictator of the Phillipines, he's currently wanted by our allies in Ukraine for questioning. Dude's incredibly shady.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:57 pm to RobbBobb
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So now the leftist fallback position is that Trumps people were legally surveilled?
Yep. I just turned on Wolf Blizter and his panel were all saying "This was perfectly legal. So what if someone was unfairly unmasked? It ain't illegal. And I am sure they had a good reason to surveil them."
Typical BS from CNN.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 4:57 pm to montanagator
quote:
Manafort has ties to way, way more sketchy people than just the Russians-
How long was he with the campaign? 5 months? What about Flynn?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:06 pm to AUstar
quote:Making it public is a felony
So what if someone was unfairly unmasked? It ain't illegal
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