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re: So if your company were going to drop $500K for a guest speaker
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:08 am to Scruffy
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:08 am to Scruffy
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I won't disagree with that, but to pay a politician that amount of money is, IMO, legal bribery.
Take HRC for example. She wasn't paid for her business insight. She was paid to gain favor and political points. It is basically lobbying.
You could argue that I have no evidence of that, but let's be realistic. The simplist answer is usually the correct one.
I don't doubt there was some expectation of gaining access....I was in Las Vegas recently and Eric Rhett (the frickhead) was at a sports memorabilia shop signing autographs....the people paying for that signature had expectations of gaining access to Rhett that they would have never had before....but all Rhett did was pretend to be accessible...and everyone was satisfied with the deal and most knew going in what it was...a few, one would assume, might have expected it to turn into a lifelong friendship where you exchange Christmas cards and what not but most knew what it was. I think that is all the went on with Clinton....
Here is the thing, though....it is possible that some of those Rhett fans had an impact on Rhett, an impact that their small payment afforded....maybe they relayed a story which resonated with Rhett and he had a different POV or something....and that could very well happen with Clinton...but that is merely humanity....it can't be legislated unless you say that ex=presidents simply can't interact with people in any manner ever again....
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:15 am to germandawg
Your analogy doesn't come close to the situation referenced with Clinton. At the basest of levels they are associated due to both involving a transaction with an individual, but you are attempting to draw associations between the two while disregarding all elements of the reality of our society involved.
Let's not kid ourselves here.
There is a galaxy of difference between the two.
Also, I'm not saying anything should be legislated against. I am merely stating that if you are honest, you should recognize that the payments made by Goldman-Sachs and the like for HRC to come speak were merely legal bribes/lobbying tactics.
Let's not kid ourselves here.
There is a galaxy of difference between the two.
Also, I'm not saying anything should be legislated against. I am merely stating that if you are honest, you should recognize that the payments made by Goldman-Sachs and the like for HRC to come speak were merely legal bribes/lobbying tactics.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:43 pm to Scruffy
quote:Well she is an expert on cattle futures, so...
Take HRC for example. She wasn't paid for her business insight.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:48 pm to Ramblin Wreck
How much does Tony Robbins charge?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:19 pm to Scruffy
It is simple. If Hillary doesn't make $250K for each speech next March or in 2018 or whenever her fees were payola.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:38 pm to gthog61
quote:fricking this! Brilliant.
It is simple. If Hillary doesn't make $250K for each speech next March or in 2018 or whenever her fees were payola.
Let's see if these big banks want to fork over a quarter mil to hear an ex-SoS and presidential loser with no power give a speech.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:47 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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You only pay that kind of money to an individual when you want to disguise your true intentions for funneling them that kind of cash.
It's like selling a pencil on eBay for 1000 bucks...oh, and by the way, we'll throw in a pair of 40-yd line LSU-Bama tickets for free.
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