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re: Senate set to vote on Graham-Cassidy bill next week.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:12 pm to GeorgeWest
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:12 pm to GeorgeWest
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Rand Paul---NO
or
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Lisa Murkowski---NO
Will be a YES.
Then Pence un-ties it.
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:12 pm to GumboPot
quote:That's what he said last time......
McConnell must think he has the votes or he wouldn't bring this to the floor for another embarrassing defeat, right?
I think Collins or Murkowski are a yes.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:13 pm to GumboPot
I don't know why liberals are in this thread assuming collins or murkowski are nos.
They have NOT said anything yet.
They have NOT said anything yet.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:16 pm to GeorgeWest
Rand will switch to a yes by next week. He just needs a few days to grand stand.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:18 pm to SirWinston
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I have always ranked this last among my Trump "promises" and don't really like any of these healthcare bills - I'd have favoured straight repeal to bring us back to 2011. Do fellow #MAGA baws agree?
The spending for healthcare remains the same so that sucks.
However the states get to spend the money as they see fit instead of the federal government. So in effect some states will continue to have Obamacare and other states (probably red states) won't. Also it really f's the blue states over b/c they are getting more money per capita currently than the red states. The red states will gain a lot of healthcare dollars if this bill passes.
Another big plus is it puts a cap on Medicare spending.
It's not full repeal. That's what I would like. But it's my understanding you need 60 votes in the senate to get full repeal so that's not happening.
This bill is a step in the right direction.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:19 pm to GumboPot
McCain is going to vote yes IMO.
He trolled Trump bigly and got it out of his system.
He trolled Trump bigly and got it out of his system.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:21 pm to SirWinston
Sadly, neither this bill or the one it's replacing will have done a fricking thing to "reform" healthcare.
All either bill is doing is changing who is paying for it.
All either bill is doing is changing who is paying for it.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:21 pm to SirWinston
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He trolled Trump bigly and got it out of his system.
That son of a bitch and his ego.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:22 pm to bamarep
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Sadly, neither this bill or the one it's replacing will have done a fricking thing to "reform" healthcare.
It does put caps on Medicare spending.
I don't know what that means but it sounds good.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:24 pm to stat19
quote:will never happen
Total repeal is the only thing I favor.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:25 pm to GumboPot
Exactly how does that reform healthcare?
Doesn't do shite to lower core caregiver costs or improve patient outcomes.
Doesn't do shite to lower core caregiver costs or improve patient outcomes.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:26 pm to GumboPot
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it puts a cap on Medicare spending.
It's not full repeal.
This bill is a step in the right direction.
MAGA
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:26 pm to bamarep
If they are holding a vote, they think it will pass.
That's not to say one of the scumbags flips at the last minute, but there's no way they would hold a vote unless they had assurances from the fence sitters.
That's not to say one of the scumbags flips at the last minute, but there's no way they would hold a vote unless they had assurances from the fence sitters.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:28 pm to bamarep
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Exactly how does that reform healthcare?
It doesn't.
I'm hoping if this bill gets passed it will put the onus on state legislatures to make reforms in their own states. The predictable outcomes will be places like Georgia and Alabama will do well and places like California will continue down the fiscal spiral.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:29 pm to SirWinston
Mccain is likely a yes. Graham wouldn't put his name on this unless his butt buddy McCain gave him permission.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:29 pm to bamarep
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Exactly how does that reform healthcare?
It will allow people to once again fall over dead in the streets due to a lack of insurance, just as they did pre-Obamacare. BamaAtl said so.
Extrapolating on that, once they are dead, they will no longer need healthcare, leading to lower costs.
In all seriousness, it puts it back in the individual state's hands, which hopefully will allow them to tailor markets to their states needs and lower costs that way. Maybe?
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:31 pm to SSpaniel
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It will allow people to once again fall over dead in the streets due to a lack of insurance, just as they did pre-Obamacare. BamaAtl said so.
Extrapolating on that, once they are dead, they will no longer need healthcare, leading to lower costs.
Seriously, it will depend on what state you live in and how your state legislature implements the plan.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:34 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Mccain is likely a yes. Graham wouldn't put his name on this unless his but buddy McCain gave him permission.
Yep.
I also find it hard to believe that Rand Paul would vote against it knowing his vote would keep Obamacare in place as is.
The new bill isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better. Pass it now, get it signed. Then immediately go to work on another bill to repeal even more.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:34 pm to hogcard1964
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Rand Paul---NO
Susan Collins---NO
Lisa Murkowski---NO
I am thinking Rand flips. Might even get Collins as she was coauthor of a similar bill with Cassidy.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:35 pm to stat19
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Total repeal is the only thing I favor.
Sadly, once an entitlement program is born, politicians will never kill it. They'll just volley it back and forth between sides and tweak it to their preferences and then sell you the same turd.
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