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Senate Republicans near votes to replace Obamacare with state block grants
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:37 am
Senate Republicans pushing to replace Obamacare with state block grants are making real noise before their window to act closes, insisting they are just one or two votes shy and that President Trump can nudge their last-gasp bill to victory.
“We are thinking that we can get this done by Sept. 30,” Sen. Bill Cassidy, the Louisiana Republican who co-wrote the bill with Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said Friday.
Republican leadership seemed to greet the bill with a shrug when it was introduced last week, yet Mr. Cassidy said the idea “took off” during a Thursday luncheon that focused on health care.
The senator said his informal whip count stands at “48 or 49” Republican votes — close to the 50-vote threshold needed to pass a bill, using Vice President Mike Pence as a tie-breaker.
Senior Democrats, meanwhile, are rallying Obamacare’s defenders to stamp out a revived threat to their signature law.
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:39 am to cajunangelle
Sadly they are not "near" shite unless one of the 3 assholes changes their mind.
Quick,somebody change mccain's meds. At this point whoever controls those controls the Senate.
Quick,somebody change mccain's meds. At this point whoever controls those controls the Senate.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:40 am to cajunangelle
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revived threat to their signature law.
Which at the same time they are waiting to use it as an Albatross to hang around Republicans necks if they can't "fix it"
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:51 am to gthog61
How could McCain not support his Ms. Lindsey's bill?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:53 am to cajunangelle
Cassidy's bill is shite.
This whole situation illustrates the age old adage perfectly: the govt messes up everything it touches.
Was healthcare perfect before? Nope.
Is it worse now? Yep.
Will this bill make it worse? Undoubtedly.
This whole situation illustrates the age old adage perfectly: the govt messes up everything it touches.
Was healthcare perfect before? Nope.
Is it worse now? Yep.
Will this bill make it worse? Undoubtedly.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 7:59 am to BamaCoaster
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Will this bill make it worse? Undoubtedly.
I'm listening.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:02 am to cajunangelle
Interesting.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:02 am to Strannix
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The bill would immediately repeal Obamacare’s individual mandate requiring people to get coverage or pay a tax and its rule requiring large employers to provide coverage or face crippling penalties. It also scraps the 2010 law’s tax on medical device sales.
There are “people coming out regularly and saying they’re for it, either privately or publicly,” Mr. Cassidy said.
But Sen. Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican, announced Friday that he is staunchly opposed to the bill, lengthening the odds of success as his party continues to struggle with its seven-year promise to scrap the Affordable Care Act.
AARP, an influential lobby for older Americans, also said it opposes the bill, enthusing Obamacare supporters.
Senate Republicans must act by the end of the month under the 2017 budget to help avoid a Democratic filibuster.
President Trump and congressional Republican leaders are still smarting over the embarrassing failure of the repeal effort in July, so many things have to go right for the new bill to pass.
For starters, its authors are still waiting for the Congressional Budget Office to analyze the plan’s impact on spending and coverage and whether it saves enough money to satisfy budget rules.
Sen. Ron Johnson, Wisconsin Republican, and Sen. Dean Heller, a Nevada Republican who faces a tough re-election bid next year, have signed onto the plan. Yet Republican leaders are demanding an airtight vote count before bringing another bill to the floor.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:05 am to Strannix
quote:Exactly.
Which at the same time they are waiting to use it as an Albatross to hang around Republicans necks if they can't "fix it"
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Senior Democrats, meanwhile, are rallying Obamacare’s defenders to stamp out a revived threat to their signature law.
Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, issued a “red alert” on Twitter over the weekend.
“Trumpcare is back & Senate GOP has until Sept 30 to pass their bill,” he wrote. “We need your voices more than ever!”
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:07 am to cajunangelle
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Sen. Rand Paul, Kentucky Republican, announced Friday that he is staunchly opposed to the bill
Obviously I haven't read the bill but Rand's downvote is a good enough indicator that it's flawed. Probably an improvement of ACA but not what we need.
Rand is one of the few in Washington I still trust.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:08 am to Homesick Tiger
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I'm listening.
I'm going to be honest. Don't know a thing about the bill.
But, if Paul, Massey, Amash, etc are opposed, then it isn't a friend of the American people.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:09 am to gthog61
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Sadly they are not "near" shite unless one of the 3 assholes changes their mind.
Right now it's Rand, Murkowski, and Collins. Need one of them to flip or get a Dem.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:11 am to BamaCoaster
Go search Cassidy Graham health care bill. It is the MSM saying it will kill babies and deprive millions of health care. So maybe it isn't so bad if the MSM is attacking it? 
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:11 am to cajunangelle
This is actually a good bill for red states. Right now per capita blue states receive a lot more money for healthcare than red states. This bill would even that up.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:12 am to cajunangelle
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How could McCain not support his Ms. Lindsey's bill?
Yep.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:16 am to GumboPot
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or get a Dem.
Manchin, if anyone on that side.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:20 am to BamaCoaster
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I'm going to be honest. Don't know a thing about the bill.
But, if Paul, Massey, Amash, etc are opposed, then it isn't a friend of the American people.
It's my understanding that the bill sucks but doesn't suck as much as now. Healthcare funds would be block granted to states and the states would be in control of managing those funds. It doesn't really get government out of the healthcare business. It simply shifts management duties from the federal government to the state government. It's a slightly better approach versus what we have now because at least it follows the principle of federalism a little bit.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 8:21 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:27 am to Jay Quest
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Obviously I haven't read the bill
Then why did you say "undoubtedly" in your previous post? You're without doubt about something you admit that "obviously" you didn't read?
That just doesn't compute.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:29 am to Homesick Tiger
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Then why did you say "undoubtedly" in your previous post?
Boy, do you have me confused with someone else.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:30 am to Homesick Tiger
To his defense: I couldn't find the Cassidy/Graham HC bill online. Lawyers can barely understand these bills they are so convoluted. So, we are only left to trust people like Rand and the HFC.
Can anyone find the bill? Explain it?
Can anyone find the bill? Explain it?
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