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cajunangelle
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Senate Democrats Supported Rule that Led to Insurance Cancellations


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Washington (CNN) - Senate Democrats voted unanimously three years ago to support the Obamacare rule that is largely responsible for some of the health insurance cancellation letters that are going out.

In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it.

“The District of Columbia is an island surrounded by reality. Only in the District of Columbia could you get away with telling the people if you like what you have you can keep it, and then pass regulations six months later that do just the opposite and figure that people are going to ignore it. But common sense is eventually going to prevail in this town and common sense is going to have to prevail on this piece of legislation as well,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said at the time.

“The administration's own regulations prove this is not the case. Under the grandfathering regulation, according to the White House's own economic impact analysis, as many as 69 percent of businesses will lose their grandfathered status by 2013 and be forced to buy government-approved plans,” the Iowa Republican said.

On a party line vote, Democrats killed the resolution, which could come back to haunt vulnerable Democrats up for re-election this year.

Senate Democrats like Mary Landrieu, Jeanne Shaheen, Mark Pryor, Kay Hagan and Mark Begich – all of whom voted against stopping the rule from going into effect and have since supported delaying parts of Obamacare.

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udtiger
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re: Senate Democrats Supported Rule that Led to Insurance Cancellations
But...if the GOP would have helped to fix the law, none of this would be happening!!!


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It looks like the nimrod pubs were finally playing chess instead of checkers.

CUE constant cough to say Obama will get shellacked in 2014.


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f the GOP would have helped to fix the law


This spin is atrocious.

If the Dems had read the bill they passed, they would have learned that it was broken to begin with.


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People are awake. On 1 Oct it was reported that Kay Hagan NC is sliding down in the polls.

How is Miss piggy doing in the polls?


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How is Miss piggy doing in the polls?



IDK, I will have to look it up.

She has knack for straddling the fence and keeping just enough big business types happy. It usually means she squeaks through.

ETA: I only saw some polls that are a few months old. They had her ahead 3 or 4 but that was before the Obamacare disaster.
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How is Miss piggy doing in the polls?

She was the subject of a brutal segment on the Kelly File Friday night.


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It usually means she squeaks through.


She squeaked through against three horrible opponents. All the R's need is a mediocre candidate.


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"Public polling is going to be all over the map between now and next November, but the one consistent thing is Kay's work on commonsense solutions for North Carolina students, seniors and service members," Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner said. "At the end of the day North Carolina families support her because of her strong record of results and despite the misleading attacks from outside special interest groups."




Wow, how out of touch do you have to be to try to sell that line?

Tell the people who are paying higher premiums for worse coverage, and paying much higher out of pocket costs for needed medications, that Ogumpcare is a "common sense solution".


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if the GOP would have helped to fix the law, none of this would be happening!!!


Don't know if sarcastic or not, but Republicans had almost zero input into the law as Ried and Pelosi had closed door policies to them as it was written.


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CITWTT
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It is now that the Republicans should start campaigning on the simple premise of who passed and signed this law of the land. Gallows should be erected near the local offices of every Democrat that voted for the law with a countdown of the calendar to next years election for all to see. If Oboe tries an more of his EOs in between now and then it should be immediately challenged in the courts.


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Gallows should be erected near the local offices of every Democrat that voted for the law with a countdown of the calendar to next years election for all to see.


:racist:

But the vote on the grandfather clause can be a powerful campaign issue. The challengers should remind people as often as possible that Hagan/Landrieu/Pryor opposed legislation that would have allowed people to keep their previous plans.

Anyone who had a plan they liked and had it cancelled will be furious and rightfully so. Especially if they're among the millions of Americans who are paying more for worse coverage.

Someone raised a very good point on here a few days ago about some of these "essential" benefits: If a husband and wife are insured separately, they're paying twice forgender-specific coverage they can only use once.


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cajunangelle
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"Public polling is going to be all over the map between now and next November, but the one consistent thing is Kay's work on commonsense solutions for North Carolina students, seniors and service members," Hagan spokeswoman Sadie Weiner said. "At the end of the day North Carolina families support her because of her strong record of results and despite the misleading attacks from outside special interest groups."



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Wow, how out of touch do you have to be to try to sell that line?


I know right.

I was wondering if anyone would GET that.


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Of course they did, they knew that millions would need to be forced onto the exchanges to pay for the leeches who will be getting healthcare with us paying for it. frick anyone who supported this and still supports it.
It's really sad that America has so many dumbass useless people in her ,and that the government has to take care of them or they would die.


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re: Senate Democrats Supported Rule that Led to Insurance Cancellations
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How is Miss piggy doing in the polls?


Other than Republicans who want her gone... Most don't even know she is up for reelection


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re: Senate Democrats Supported Rule that Led to Insurance Cancellations
The most recent poll I have found on her had her holding steady at +10 over Cassidy, but thar poll was from Oct 16 so I don't think the ACA had really factored in yet. I'll be interested in seeing how/if that number changes by the end of January (after folks have started getting a good taste of what the ACA will mean for individual plans).


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The most recent poll I have found on her had her holding steady at +10 over Cassidy, but thar poll was from Oct 16 so I don't think the ACA had really factored in yet. I'll be interested in seeing how/if that number changes by the end of January (after folks have started getting a good taste of what the ACA will mean for individual plans).


I can't imagine her winning by double digits unless Cassidy runs a horrible campaign. Right now name recognition is an issue.


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That's her biggest obstacle. Old white people are going to show up at the mid term polls more than reliable democratic voters.


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That's her biggest obstacle. Old white people are going to show up at the mid term polls more than reliable democratic voters.


The get out the vote money leading up to this is what will tell you what's happening. The closer things look the more La Raza and the rest of the nutbag organizations will be rushing to bus "voters" to the polls.


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fatboydave
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Mary, Mary, why you buggin?


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