Sam Harris podcast with Scott Adams

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I'm only about 30 minutes into it, but pretty good so far. Adams, who I heard speak on the JRE podcast maybe a year ago, is making a lot of the same arguments about why Trump is an effective politician, but unlike Rogan it you can tell it gets under Harris' skin a little bit. Adams is very calm, smart guy and I think Harris' blind spot is that anyone could be susceptible to Trump's power of persuasion.

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Harris, like a bunch of others, took a "moral" stand against Trump at the beginning. They feel pressured to hold themselves accountable to a degree. IMO. I think Sam Harris is one of the smartest minds out there, but he does get emotional over Trump for some reason.

Just started it and have been waiting for this one. Whatever Harris' reaction ends up being, he is the most honest public figure I can ever remember.

Sam Harris is vehemently against Trump no matter what anyone says. He can't have an educational conversation about anything because he just disputes it all





ETA: and I'm not a rah rah Trump fan at all. Just commenting on his demeanor

I just listened to the entire pod cast and my impression of Sam Harris, albeit very smart, puts way too much faith in the experts that confirm his obvious bias.

For example. On the Muh Russian deal he takes the Democrats and IC word without an ounce of skepticism. He buys the IC's vacuous hacking report hook line and sinker. He doesn't even question the integrity of Clapper, Brennen and Comey and their internal bias. And he never mentions that fact that Mike Rogers (still director of the NSA) did not endorse the IC report to the level of Brennen, Comey and Clapper. Rogers almost got fired by Obama for not playing along.

The other example was on the subject of climate change and the 97% of scientists agree claim. Again, he put forth zero skepticism. He is a good little lemming to the left. Even if 100% of scientists agree that there is climate change (which I'm fine with) that is not the argument. The arguments is what are its causes and to what extent and what can we do about it. His approach was we need to do something seemingly in disregard for costs and effectiveness. His attitude is we just have to do something because 97% of scientists agree.

The other example was on the subject of immigration. Scott and Sam were talking about deporting 11 million illegal immigrants. Scott explained that Trump always takes a hyperbolic position that he may know is technically false but is emotionally true. That is, Trump supporters connected with Trump on an emotional level knowing that the practicality of deporting 11 million illegals Alien Gonzalez style (like Sam believes) won't happen however the emotional part of the position of deporting 11 million illegals is the direction of immigration policy that Trump supporters want to move the nation.

In Sam's view, Trump is a big fricking liar. The lying Trump confirms his bias.

In Trump supporters view they think of Trump as, "I like the direction Trump is going."

It baffles me that someone as smart as Sam can be so gullible and not see the nuance in Trump's political statements.

I stopped listening to him after he said he's heard a tape of Trump saying the N-word. He's full of shite.

Midway through this.

I'm not much of a Harris fan (don't see what the fuss is about, honestly), but Adams is beating him like a mule so far.

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GumboPot

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So in the tank.

Why you people listen to these pseudo-intellectuals and not read the academic papers on the topics, I'm assuming you don't, is beyond me. I don't get the love for Harris, Shapiro, etc.

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Can you be any more full of shite?

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I don't know. Are you reading the papers on every issue? I can distinctly recall watching Shapiro do a few economic debates on issues like the minimum wage and sounding absolutely pedestrian in his arguments. The same goes with Harris on the topics I've seen him discuss: recite a bunch of stats and make arguments off them.

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