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Ryan tax plan would cut taxes on rich and RAISE THEM on middle class - WaPo

Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:33 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15030 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:33 am
President Trump and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan both want to rewrite the tax code, but their proposals differ on how much tax relief to give the middle class.

Trump wants a tax cut across the board, according to the plan he published during the campaign. He has proposed relief for the wealthy especially, but also for less affluent households. The plan that Ryan (R-Wis.) and his colleagues in the House have put forward would not substantially reduce taxes for the middle class, and many households would pay more.

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After a decade, 99.6 percent of the tax relief Ryan proposed would have accrued to the wealthiest 1 percent of the country. In Trump's plan, 50.8 percent of the relief would have gone to that group, according to analyses by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

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Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:35 am to
Conservative tax policy has always been a joke. Raise the deficit to the direct benefit of the rich.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 8:38 am
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Ryan tax plan would cut taxes on rich and RAISE THEM on middle class - WaPo


1. I'm hesitant to believe anything in the Washington Post

2.I'm also hesitant to believe that Ryan is smarter than this.

I'm truly conflicted on this one.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:35 am to
This is the dem response to all conservative agenda items.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98282 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:36 am to
Paul Ryan is quickly rising on my list of hateable people.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19260 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:39 am to
From the article

quote:

Another reason for the discrepancy in the effects of the plans on the middle class is how Ryan's proposal would affect imports and exports. The plan includes a complex and controversial provision known as a “border adjustment,” which some economists think would increase prices for goods and services imported from overseas.

Eric Toder, an economist at the Tax Policy Center, said the group's initial analysis of this aspect of the plan treated it as a kind of tax on households' purchases, but many experts believe that Ryan's proposal would not have that effect over the long term.

Ryan's plan would be better for the middle class on that more optimistic assumption. “When we do it that way, there actually is a bit of a cut for the middle class,” Toder said
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Ryan tax plan would cut taxes on rich and RAISE THEM on middle class - WaPo
GHWBush raised taxes . . . disproportionately on the "wealthy"
Clinton raised taxes . . . disproportionately on the "wealthy"
GWBush cut taxes temporarily . . . when the cuts expired, taxes increased disproportionately on the "wealthy"
Obama raised taxes . . . disproportionately on the "wealthy"

Yet, despite soaking the rich, it is the middle class who seem to suffer.
Perhaps the WashPo is FOS
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50167 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:45 am to
quote:

From the article

quote:
Another reason for the discrepancy in the effects of the plans on the middle class is how Ryan's proposal would affect imports and exports. The plan includes a complex and controversial provision known as a “border adjustment,” which some economists think would increase prices for goods and services imported from overseas.

Eric Toder, an economist at the Tax Policy Center, said the group's initial analysis of this aspect of the plan treated it as a kind of tax on households' purchases, but many experts believe that Ryan's proposal would not have that effect over the long term.

Ryan's plan would be better for the middle class on that more optimistic assumption. “When we do it that way, there actually is a bit of a cut for the middle class,” Toder said


LOL.

Great job OP.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:47 am to
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This is the dem response to all conservative agenda items.


It's almost like the entire modern conservative agenda consists of "Give rich people more money, and frick the middle class while doing so"

How weird that they ALL fit into that bucket...
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35302 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:48 am to
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“border adjustment,”


"Border adjustment" is such a nice, new poll-tested name for a tariff.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:48 am to
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Conservative tax policy has always been a joke. Raise the deficit to the direct benefit of the rich.

You forget that they want to cut spending across the board completely.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:48 am to
Taxes need to be cut.

You can't cut taxes without the wealthy getting more of a tax cut than the poor simply because the wealthy pay more taxes.

That said PLEASE abandon the idea of a BAT.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21857 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Yet, despite soaking the rich, it is the middle class who seem to suffer.




Yeah, the rich has really been 'soaked' since Reagan.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84937 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:49 am to
I have no idea what "middle class" means in this context...
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28082 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:51 am to
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Paul Ryan is quickly rising on my list of hateable people.


Based on a WaPo article posted by a liberal shill?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13493 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:52 am to
C'mon man! What do you expect from the WaPooPoo? Truth and accuracy are secondary to pushing their libtard agenda.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48926 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Conservative tax policy has always been a joke.

Ryan =/= Conservative soooo...
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12631 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:53 am to
Estate tax repeal for estates over 10 million will be red meat coverage for Dems and the media.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:


Yeah, the rich has really been 'soaked' since Reagan.

You really should avoid financial or economic threads.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28082 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:53 am to
Lol yeah we need to go back to 50%+. Also, great job ignoring capital gains and estate tax.
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