re: Ryan considering ditching Obamacare regulations in the 11th hour

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I missed this can you explain for me?
What guidance?

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Ryan was saying that if they added some of this stuff to the new bill, it couldn't pass through as reconciliation (and thus would get filibustered). But apparently that isn't the case, which you can't tell me they didn't know that from the beginning. Hell, Cruz said a few days back that the rules state that the VP can make the determination as to whether or not it would fall under reconciliation by overruling the chamber’s parliamentarian (it would basically be the nuclear option for reconciliation).

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Trump needs to quit trying to pass a bad bill and get this shite right.

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no one agrees what that is though.

and Trump is antsy to finish this. he wants a success.
the longer it takes, the worse it is for him. its only about getting it done.
he does not care what the bill does.

However, it has to be done very well or the people who have to live with it will be pissed and pissed off people vote against whomever pissed them off.

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How this wasnt in the first iteration is abusurd. A single 65 yo male shouldnt have to buy maternity coverage.

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Paul Ryan is a pussy.

Concessions starting to cost moderate votes:

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Moderate Republicans huddled with Speaker Paul Ryan and House leaders for nearly two hours Wednesday night but emerged without consensus. Immediately after exiting the meeting, Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), leader of the House’s moderate Tuesday Group, panned the bill, known as the American Health Care Act. “After careful deliberation, I cannot support the bill and will oppose it,” Dent said in a statement upon leaving the meeting. “I believe this bill, in its current form, will lead to the loss of coverage and make insurance unaffordable for too many Americans, particularly for low-to-moderate income and older individuals.”

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Politico: Will efforts to appeal Freedom Caucus cost Trumpcare moderate votes?

Add another one: Rep. David Young (R-IA): Young "No" on AHCA

Yeah watching the bill die in the House could be hilarious-- especially if its the last remnants of the Freedom Caucus (as opposed to the Freedom Cuckus members who vote Yes) and moderate Republicans.

If you can't pass a bill, you might as well give yourself cover by making the bill as solid as possible

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if the first 2 stages are passed but the third is not... we are all screwed.

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This is how it will play out. FACT.

If u think this is a good plan may u get cancer and have to fight the insurance companies to cover u. U will ducking die but I will be glad to represent your way and maybe get her a settlement to remember u buy. ( if I am very lucky )

They have to do it in stages and all the bad shite is in the first stage. Then the insurance industry will come alive kill the rest and u will have preexisting conditions, caps, coverage ending at college etc again.

Yes the government fricks up most everything but they are nothing compared to the insurance companies. I have so many examples of their shitty behavior its unreal. By the way if u get policy from work it's an ERISA policy and they are immune from punitive damages and most lawsuits so they can frick u basically at will. ( and they do )

Why in the Holy hell do they make people get insurance that covers maternity care, and other random shite they will never use? Wow!!! Unbelievable. Good riddance.

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Good, my family for instance does not need maternity care or substance abuse treatment etc

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And so it begins.....the return to insurance policies that aren't worth the paper they are written on...and millions of people being underinsured and therefore unable to pay their providers and the providers collecting from those who do pay....

Young people who do need maternity care and substance abuse treatment don't need middle aged athiririts care either....but they pay for it...that is how group policies work....the good with the bad. I would bet if you polled young folks they would much prefer to pay for maternity insurance than old people's insurance....but at the end of the day when someone who says "my family doesn't need maternity insurance" fricks around, literally, and pops out a child at 50 everyone else picks up the slack anyway...

Every uninsured and every under-insured person in the US drives up the cost of responsible people who have proper coverage....and that is exactly where the GOP is going.....