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Alahunter
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Bayou Sam


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Debkafile is not a reliable news source. Watching this thread unfold has been hilarious, thanks.


Care to elaborate?






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GumboPot
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not everything that happens in the middle east is about oil


Why does Russia have interest in Syria (taking Assad's side)?


Bayou Sam
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Debkafile is propaganda for neocons...its "sources" are Israeli militarists who use the site to manipulate information.

I used to read them during the Second Iraqi War; after a while it became so clear that they were just making shite up that I stopped.


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Honestly, we need to sit back for a while to watch Hezbollah and AQ continue their depletion of assets.
Won't happen with John Kerry delivering Arms and $$$ to the Brotherhood in Egypt.


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Cincinnati Bowtie
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A more repressive govt than Assad? Doubtful. Unless we abandon the more moderate factions then it's probable. Assad will fall. We're better off backing the winner.
Try being a Christian in Egypt. There are NO moderate factions in the Muslim Brotherhood.


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Alahunter
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I used to read them during the Second Iraqi War; after a while it became so clear that they were just making shite up that I stopped.


Which part in the OP was made up then?


Vegas Bengal
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Can they even fit 300 marines on a Udaloy 1 class destroyer?


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re: Russian Warships headed to Syria
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Why does Russia have interest in Syria (taking Assad's side)?


Favorable business dealings because the government defaulted on debt to Russia. I believe Syria bought arms from Russia and they waived the remaining debt for business interest etc.. Also, their Navy uses Syria as its main port.


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Alahunter
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Can they even fit 300 marines on a Udaloy 1 class destroyer?


Complement: 300


Vegas Bengal
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It has a crew of 249. Would be awfully tight with 549 folks on it.


Alahunter
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Perhaps. Says on all the sites I've seen, that crew is 220-249. That could reduce the overall number. In any case, it doesn't debunk the article. I will concede it's biased, almost as much as American networks are. It doesn't make the story not true. The Russians have a base in Syria, and in the last yr, have sent 10 warships at once. I don't see why 2 would be cause for some to try to claim it's propaganda.


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There are many factions including Kurds


Kurds want none of that shite
Rebel Islamists and Kurds Clash in North Syria

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The fall of Assad lessens the influence of Hezbollah and Iran in the region


And How is that a good thing ?
If any it will cause s sunni dominated region full of radicals that is hostile not only to the west but to ME minorities including Christians , Shias and Druze

The US is doing what Israel tells them to do, i know it is hard to believe but it is a fact


Vegas Bengal
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Kurds want none of that shite
Rebel Islamists and Kurds Clash in North Syria

There are Kurdish militias fighting the Assad regime and theyve clashed with other rebels. So you think not aiding factions like the Kurdish militias will help lessen AQ affiliated rebel groups?

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And How is that a good thing ?
If any it will cause s sunni dominated region full of radicals that is hostile not only to the west but to ME minorities including Christians , Shias and Druze
Assad and Hezbollah have hurt in chance of a stable, strong government in Lebanon. They have supported and supplied insurgents killing Americans in Iraq. They have launched rockets into Israel.

You're assuming sunni radicals taking over Syria. That assumption will be more likely if Assad falls and we are absent.

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The US is doing what Israel tells them to do, i know it is hard to believe but it is a fact
I'm not arguing with you there.


Matrixman
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Russian Warships headed to Syria.

Unbelieveable!! We have to depend on the Russians to stop Barack Hussein Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood in their quest for world domination.

America.....you are ONE screwed up country!

Putin 2016

Get the facts....then decide for yourself!

Have a great day!!
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Northwestern tiger
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here are Kurdish militias fighting the Assad regime


thats what the sunni "aljazeera" media cliaming , in fact Syrian troops withdrew from Kurdish area and they have a deal with the kurds. Kurds are in line with Aasad despite their sunni background, hey don;t give a shite about FSA, they want their own state.

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Assad and Hezbollah have hurt in chance of a stable, strong government in Lebanon.


Look there is no chance for a stable government in lebanon without Hizbollah involvement. They , the shia, make up around 40 % of the population and they are allied with large majority of the Christians and the Druze. The sunni in lebanon are fricked




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Bayou Sam
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Propaganda is not in the "fact" of the warship, but the interpretation.


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Bayou Sam
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Putin 2016

The republican mind: "Obama is a tyrant, let's vote for Putin."


Matrixman
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The republican mind: "Obama is a tyrant, let's vote for Putin."


The democrat mind: "Obama will cut taxes on the middle class. 'I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.'"

t'es fou....

Have a great day!!

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Sid in Lakeshore
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re: Russian Warships headed to Syria
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Unbelieveable!! We have to depend on the Russians to stop Barack Hussein Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood in their quest for world domination.

America.....you are ONE screwed up country!

Putin 2016

Get the facts....then decide for yourself!


I've decided that you are a complete loon. I thought CajunAngelle was the looniest poster on this site. You proved me wrong.

Well done


Alahunter
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Russia will honour its controversial contract to deliver S-300 air defence missile systems to Syria, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Thursday.

"We respect all our contracts and are honouring all our contractual obligations," Lavrov said in an interview with state-run Rossiya 24 TV. "As yet, the contracts are not finished, they have not been delivered in full," he added.


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Lavrov renewed Russia's objections to a potential no-fly zone in Syria, which the S-300 systems would make extremely difficult to implement, and said Western plans to arm the opposition would see most weapons fall into the hands of Jabhat al-Nusra, an al-Qaeda affiliate that is believed to be among the most effective rebel factions.


More Israeli propaganda, this time from the CDC (Canadian Press)


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