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re: Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret channel with Kremlin

Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:01 pm to
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No offense, but if you are stuck thinking about Fox News vs the rest of msm, then it is high time to broaden your horizons. Nobody should be watching any of that drivel.

Parading NYT and WaPo makes me think you are trolling. If so, well done.


So what are the "credible" news organizations in your mind?

Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4306 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Suppose this is true and we actually did set up a secure back channel to communicate with Russia, what is the "big picture" problem here? Wouldn't that make both sides cooperating with eachother and possibly lead to a stronger partnership between the two countries? If you can get on the good side of one of your biggest enemies, really one of the only ones that can even threaten you, is that a bad thing?


Russia wants the US to be weaker, they don't want to be our ally or friend. It wouldn't shock me at all if they are putting stuff out there to ramp up the chaos. A US in chaos is good for Russia.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:13 pm to
@MalcolmNance is pretty freaked about this and he never gets panicky about anything.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1072 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:15 pm to
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So what are the "credible" news organizations in your mind?


Start with journalists, historians, economists, etc... that you trust and follow them. Listen to their podcasts, follow their blogs, join their groups. It tends to network out as you learn of others who are potentially trustworthy. The amount of information available is soon more than can be digested. I've never looked back. A big upside is the lack of yelling and talking over guests. Less advertising is another perk.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:27 pm to
That didn't really answer the question.

Who and what outlets do you think are credible, reliable news providers?

Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1072 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:31 pm to
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That didn't really answer the question. Who and what outlets do you think are credible, reliable news providers?


Who I follow is my business. You are fishing for a gotcha and I will gladly deprive you of the pleasure.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1072 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:41 pm to
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Russia wants the US to be weaker, they don't want to be our ally or friend. It wouldn't shock me at all if they are putting stuff out there to ramp up the chaos. A US in chaos is good for Russia.


How are they "putting stuff out there"? Any evidence or plausible theories as of yet?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146479 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:20 am to
So now the democrats and a want trust Russia?

Fake news read the whole thing. We have this...

Russians Snookered Comey Into Making Speech Letting Hillary Off The Hook

and now they trust Russia as a source.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67625 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:38 am to
So the other day when Putin and Lavrov defended Trump it was all,

"Russians bad, of course they would defend, they are in on it, don't trust"

Now a Russian is saying something suspicious and its all,

"Russians good, they know Trump is bad too, they are helping us impeach him, trust them"

So, which is it guys?

Do we trust the Russians or not?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35360 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:42 am to
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Now a Russian is saying something suspicious and its all,

"Russians good, they know Trump is bad too, they are helping us impeach him, trust them"
They didn't leak to us that Trump team was setting up back channels. We intercepted their communications.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67625 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:49 am to
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We intercepted their communications.


How do we know that wasn't a trick too?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35360 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:57 am to
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Spin away, you crazy Trumpkins.
It was just for fantasy football trades. Those guys in the IC have been winning every year, we need to turn the tables!
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 12:06 pm to
Mueller knows all he has to do is gather enough circumstantial evidence to get a federal judge to sign off on a subpoena of Trumps tax returns and follow the hollowed out trail from there.


Those tax returns are going to be exposed, or Trump might agree to resign first to avoid the public shame.


All this other stuff is just window dressing.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/27/17 at 12:07 pm to
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How do we know that wasn't a trick too?

If it was a trick the WH would be denying it but it looks like they've finally learned to just skip step 1 and go straight to "actually it's not a big deal"
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