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re: Retired CIA Officer Ray McGovern says Trump should not trust the CIA

Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:09 pm to
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The "Dems" didn't rig the election
Somewhere Bernie is weeping, Rex.

Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Somewhere Bernie is weeping.


You mean the guy who made the motion to nominate Hillary Clinton for President? That guy?

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:11 pm to
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You mean the guy who made the motion to nominate Hillary Clinton for President? That guy?
Yes the good apparatchik of the Dem party, he got his sweet dacha on the lake.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:12 pm to
As a reader, I am going to paraphrase/quote Henry Kissinger on how the CIA works. This is from his book, "Diplomacy":

"The CIA gathers information, provides it to the president, and then the president sets the agenda. However, it usually works the other way around."
Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:14 pm to
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Yes the good apparatchik of the Dem party, he got his sweet dacha on the lake.




The same guy who was not a member of the Democratic party until he decided to run, and who withdrew from the party shortly after he motioned that Hillary Clinton should be the nominee? That apparatchik?

BTW - is there any actual evidence Hillary Clinton 'rigged' the election or it this just one of those post-truth tell it like it is things we are supposed to accept without evidence?



Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:15 pm to
Is there any government apparatus obama hasn't politicized?

He used the IRS to deny Americans the right to participate in an election.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:16 pm to
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You mean the guy who made the motion to nominate Hillary Clinton for President? That guy?

Did you even read the emails that were released? If so, you'd know that the DNC rigged the election to tank Bernie's run.

And you would also know that the emails proved that the media colluded with Hillary's group to rig the debates, and thus the general election.

I'm hoping you are just an alter, but if not, you need to stop because you are making a fool of yourself.
Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:16 pm to
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He used the IRS to deny Americans the right to participate in an election.


No.

Next lie please.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:17 pm to
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The same guy who was not a member of the Democratic party until he decided to run, and who withdrew from the party shortly after he motioned that Hillary Clinton should be the nominee? That apparatchik?
Yes the "independent" that caucuses with the Dems that "independent".

quote:

BTW - is there any actual evidence Hillary Clinton 'rigged' the election or it this just one of those post-truth tell it like it is things we are supposed to accept without evidence?
I don't know why don't you supply the debate questions to me prior to asking them.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:20 pm to
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No. Next lie please.

Ok Mr. Koskinen. You were a credit to political lackeys everywhere.
Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:22 pm to
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Did you even read the emails that were released? If so, you'd know that the DNC rigged the election to tank Bernie's run.


Can you point to a specific email that shows Hillary Clinton rigging an election?



Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:23 pm to
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Ok Mr. Koskinen. You were a credit to political lackeys everywhere.




I am very sorry I don't swallow your lies without evidence. I don't listen to AM talk radio or watch FOX News.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:24 pm to
We got a live one here
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Can you point to a specific email that shows Hillary Clinton rigging an election?

If they existed they are with the 33K from her shitter server.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Russians break into Hillary's email server - forget the illegal act of breaking into the server - concentrate on what was leaked.

CIA leaks evidence of Trump being a Russian puppet - forget our President-elect is a puppet of Russia concentrate on the leaker.

Got it.


One was showing truthful emails, one was a made up document. I know the truth hurts a liberals head....but just think about the difference for one minute.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

I am very sorry I don't swallow your lies without evidence

Did you not watch Lois Lerner take the fifth about 600 times?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Can you point to a specific email that shows Hillary Clinton rigging an election?

The wikileak emails aren't that hard to find. They are kind of a big deal right now. You might want to do your own research. Most of us did that before the election.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48258 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:48 pm to
The CIA killed JFK and they would be happy if somebody killed Trump.
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:53 pm to
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Of course. Provided you credit him with all the good things that have happened in the past 6 months and credit Obama with all the bad things.

He actually won the popular vote, too, so long as you subtract enough votes from Hillary.

He is also 20 feet tall, if you add about 14 feet to his height.



FAIL.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37574 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 11:12 pm to
I know a few CIA types, mostly current and expected blue badgers ... to a man they will tell you the field officers are not to be trusted.

Also, too many ivy leaguers and too many women in positions of influence and decision making although there are some good ones here and there.
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