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Report: Federal Grand Juries voted to indict defendant 99.9% of the time

Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:04 pm
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Grand juries, at least at the federal level, almost always vote to indict people accused by prosecutors of a crime. As you can see in the chart above, federal prosecutors pursued over 160,000 cases against defendants in 2009-2010 (the last period for which there is data), and grand juries only voted not to return an indictment in 11. Prosecutors decided not to pursue charges in thousands of cases for a host of other reasons, such as weak evidence or other authorities were pursuing the case.


Anyone saying that the grand jury won't vote to return indictments simply isn't facing reality.

All we need to know now are the targets. It's already known than Flynn and Manafort are targets, so they're likely already cooked.

The next question is if they turn on the Trump family for a plea deal.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Anyone saying that the grand jury won't vote to return indictments simply is facing reality.


yeah, we are going to get some indictments. Just a question of whom and for what, along with when.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62366 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:08 pm to
Ham sandwich....For the country's sake, I hope this is for show. Feel like the criminals will get away with everything, and they'll indict the ham sandwich for something away from the intended investigation...
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:10 pm to
The more I think about it, the more I get troubled that people are going down this road to take down someone they disagree with politically. I think it cheapens politics.

And the biggest loser of all are the American People. Because instead of focusing their attention on winning these voters back by crafting messages and proposing legislation that helps them, political forces instead are focusing their energy on taking down the person these people voted for.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Anyone saying that the grand jury won't vote to return indictments simply is facing reality.

It's the who & what that are important
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:13 pm to
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instead of focusing their attention on winning these voters back by crafting messages and proposing legislation that helps them, political forces instead are focusing their energy on taking down the person these people voted for.


you do know what this is called, right?
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Anyone saying that the grand jury won't vote to return indictments simply is facing reality.

hmmmmm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Anyone saying that the grand jury won't vote to return indictments simply is facing reality.
Well that's under the assumption anything is brought forward.
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All we need to know now are the targets. It's already known than Flynn and Manafort are targets, so they're likely already cooked.
Manafort wouldn't be too big of a problem since Trump did fire him.

Flynn, on the other hand, may provide some political optics problems since he was the person that Trump wanted Comey to stop investigating.

Either way, if it's just Manafort and Flynn, then it will cause some political damage, but far from worse case scenario.
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The next question is if they turn on the Trump family for a plea deal.
At least of what we know, I don't think their criminal issues would indicate that they have any leverage to use against Trump to plea down.

Now maybe there is information we don't have that says otherwise, BUT based on what we know, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:15 pm to
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It's the who & what that are important
Well, the most important thing is that a area of the country that is 97% democratic is going to use the force of the law to bring down someone they disagree with politically.

You can argue whether or not it is warranted, but you can't kid yourself that DC is an objective district.

I don't want to live in a country where political opponents are indicted by areas of the country that are 97% politically opposed to you.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
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I don't want to live in a country where political opponents are indicted by areas of the country that are 97% politically opposed to you.

And this is exactly why we have a 2nd Amendment
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33299 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
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You can argue whether or not it is warranted, but you can't kid yourself that DC is an objective district.

I don't want to live in a country where political opponents are indicted by areas of the country that are 97% politically opposed to you.
Thanks for describing juries under Jim Crow.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118604 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

All we need to know now are the targets. It's already known than Flynn and Manafort are targets, so they're likely already cooked.



Flynn is already involved in a grand jury in Virginia, I would speculate that at the very least impanelling another special grand jury likely means someone other then Flynn is a target.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
Clinton, Obama, and Rice are fricked
signed,
Poli talk
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:18 pm to
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99.9% of the time
Because it's a one sided affair.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
Was the.1% the one that did Hillary's?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69234 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Thanks for describing juries under Jim Crow.
yes.


Using the force of the law to nullify political forces is something that isn't exactly american.

And to think that some of the current stuff isn't motivated by politics is laughable.

Trump is absolutely despised by most people in DC, to the point where his assassination would be cheered
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118604 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
Under a grand jury you have no rights.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Was the.1% the one that did Hillary's?


As Comey said, no reasonable prosecutor would bring it to a Grand Jury.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:21 pm to
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As Comey said, no reasonable prosecutor would bring it to a Grand Jury.
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