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Report: DNC rejected FBI to look into servers
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:03 pm
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/312957-fbi-dems-bicker-over-investigation-of-hacked-servers
How bad does this thing stink?
How bad does this thing stink?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:11 pm to Contra
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Security experts say it's common for lawyers for private organizations to turn down requests from law enforcement for access to servers. Comey has publicly bemoaned that fact, wishing aloud that companies would trust the FBI more.
A source with experience in both FBI cyber investigations and private sector forensics said over the past five years or so, it's become common to let well-established companies handle forensics -- even after the FBI comes in.
Forensic procedure involves documentation, allowing the FBI to focus on other aspects of the work. In issues with sensitive information, such as those involving email breaches of high-profile victims, the FBI occasionally prefers not to ever have data that could be mishandled.
Are you really surprised organizations don't give the FBI access to its entire server history?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:14 pm to VOLhalla
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Are you really surprised organizations don't give the FBI access to its entire server history?
I'm surprised by the rush to blame the Russians.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:15 pm to Contra
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Report: DNC rejected FBI to look into servers
I didn't think there was a choice. You mean if the FBI wants my computer for evidence of a major crime, I don't have to give it to them and I can just "tell" them whats in there??? Kool! Thanks for the info!
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:16 pm to VOLhalla
Without checking the servers themselves, are they just signing off on the DNC speculation?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:18 pm to VOLhalla
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Are you really surprised organizations don't give the FBI access to its entire server history?
I can see why the DNC wouldn't, after all the corruption that was exposed. There's no telling what some agent would find.
And they lied by saying the FBI never asked for the servers, as reported in the article.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:22 pm to Contra
And the IRS just keeps ticking along. They are Kryptonite.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:24 pm to VOLhalla
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Are you really surprised organizations don't give the FBI access to its entire server history?
Are you surprised the government is investigating the hacking of private organizations and individual, affiliated with the left after an election they lose, but never lifted a finger when Sony, Chase, Yahoo, various government agencies, etc were hacked over the past 8 years?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:28 pm to Bourre
So your premise is that cyber agencies never investigated those incidents?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:29 pm to Tigerdev
What "cyber" agencies do you believe have jurisdiction?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:30 pm to Contra
I wouldn't hand it over either. Certainly not with Trump taking over in a few days.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:32 pm to Wolfhound45
Well he mentioned government agencies being hacked in his post so uhhh....
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:36 pm to Tigerdev
The certainly didn't warrant diplomatic retaliations and public hearings. What's the difference now? Oh yeah, democrats lost the election.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:02 pm to Tigerdev
Okay. And the question remains the same. Who do you believe has jurisdiction over this time of crime or illicit activity?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:03 pm to Tigerdev
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So your premise is that cyber agencies never investigated those incidents?
So your premise is they did?
They must fricking suck then because they apparently didn't stop shite.
real heroes
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:09 pm to Contra
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“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.
So they held out?
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"In nine out of 10 cases, we don't need access, we don't ask for access, we don't get access. That's the normal [procedure],” Leo Taddeo, a former special agent in charge of the cyber division of the FBI’s New York office, told The Hill. “It's extraordinarily rare for the FBI to get access to the victim's infrastructure because we could mess it up," he added. "We usually ask for the logs and images, and 99 out of a hundred times, that's sufficient.”
Seems there's more to the story. Any other military guys with access to the report who might weigh in here?
Anyone?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:35 pm to Navytiger74
Looks like the FBI reviewed the RNC systems when it was suspected they had been hacked: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/priebus-denies-report-rnc-was-hacked-232483
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"We contacted the FBI months ago when the DNC issue came about," Priebus said on ABC's "This Week." "They’ve reviewed all of our systems. We have hacking detection systems in place. And the conclusion was then, as it was again two days ago, when we went back to the FBI to ask them about this, that the RNC was not hacked."
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:43 pm to Navytiger74
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Anyone?
If only there were a government agency that collects data from major internet cables between countries that could provide the data to the FBI.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:48 pm to Wolfhound45
Of government agencies being hacked? I am no expert (medical software guy), but i would think at a glance:
1.) cyber branches of agencies being hacked
2.) FBI
3.) NSA
4.) CIA if foreign government sponsored.
Does that seem absurd? We got any cyber bubbas online?
1.) cyber branches of agencies being hacked
2.) FBI
3.) NSA
4.) CIA if foreign government sponsored.
Does that seem absurd? We got any cyber bubbas online?
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