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re: Rand Paul: "Somebody Was Spying On the Trump Campaign" (Video)

Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:38 pm to
The only reasonable assumption is they already have looked into everything and came up with empty. The IC has already admitted into plenty of investigating already. It would have came out already if there was really something to it.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:40 pm to
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What impeachable offense did he accuse him of? I truly don't know.


illegally wiretapping his phones...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Just as much of a problem if it is his campaign and associates
So when Trump said it's as big or even bigger than Watergate, he meant investigating his associates was a scandal too? So they can't be investigating, despite the justification?
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Why does that really make a difference due to the fact it was still against his campaign/administration which is directly tied to him?
Because investigating Paul Manafort, and his shadiness, is not the same as investigating Trump.

But hey, this is been known for months, now it's a big deal, since we must move the goal posts to make Trump's claim seem accurate.
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Trump = Trump/Family/Campaign/Administration
OK. And if and when, someone in his administration or campaign, even unbeknownst to Trump, does something illegal, I guess I have no other choice than to include Trump in that.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:44 pm to
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illegally wiretapping his phone


He didn't accuse Obama of that.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:44 pm to
First of all, the word "wiretapping" was in quotes. Trump was obviously talking about being monitored in any form or fashion. You know, you can't exactly recreate War & Peace in a tweet.

Let's be honest. It was either with Obama's knowledge, or else some other administration official probably went rogue. Either way, that doesn't look good for Obama.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 pm to
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First of all, the word "wiretapping" was in quotes. Trump was obviously talking about being monitored in any form or fashion.


no quotes --->

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I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:47 pm to
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You know, you can't exactly recreate War & Peace in a tweet.
Well knowing the character limitations, if he's going to make controversial and strong claims that can't be accurately communicated in a tweet, then that's his fault for using Twitter for it.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23111 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Trump accused Obama of an impeachable offense without putting forward any evidence


The evidence is in the public record.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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He didn't accuse Obama of that.
So he's accusing Obama of legally wiretapping his phones?

Great. Then he can release the warrant and settle it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118550 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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They said they don't have it on Trump himself. If only Trump would have said "wiretapped my associates" instead of "wiretapped my phones," this issue would have been resolved.


All is a sudden the entire MSM has case of autism and takes every word of every tweet literally.

Meanwhile a felony was comited but let's argue about semantics of Trumps tweets.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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The evidence is in the public record.
His tweet?
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Is that why ILLEGAL immigration is already down 61%

Is that why Trump killed America's participation in TPP?

Is that why companies & countries are lining up to do business with America?


That doesn't have shite to do with "draining the swamp"

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You can continue to worship the "You didn't build that" community agitator if you wish


I would have thought this would have died by now...
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8525 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Why wait?

The smartest thing anyone has said on this board all day. While I don't buy the "Obama spied on Trump" narrative, he would make a better Commander in Chief than President Twitter.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4281 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:51 pm to
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So he's accusing Obama of legally wiretapping his phones?


Pretty much.

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Great. Then he can release the warrant and settle it.


Pretty much.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:52 pm to
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Rand Paul for President in 2024


I was for him in 2016. Did you see the debates?

disappointing.

and he polled lower than Biden.

I just have to admit that yet-another guy I think has a lot to offer is not appreciated by the masses.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:52 pm to
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All is a sudden the entire MSM has case of autism and takes every word of every tweet literally.

Meanwhile a felony was comited but let's argue about semantics of Trumps tweets.
When he used singular possessives describing his phone and his tower, it's not a matter of semantics that can be interpreted multiple ways.

Besides all of those news stories were out for months, highlighting the investigations into Manafort, Page, (can't think of the third). So then why make a fuss about "a Watergate level scandal" when it's been known, and it's not actually anything like Watergate?
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23111 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:56 pm to
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His tweet?


We've been through this:
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:57 pm to
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We've been through this:
What public record? No FISA warrants have been released. So the only real public record we have is yesterday's hearing.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:58 pm to
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I would have thought this would have died by now...





If the bastard had moved to Hawaii like he said he was, it would be different. But noooo...... the community agitator has moved 2 miles from the White House, allegedly has Valerie Jarrett moving into the home he built (has a nice wall, btw), and the little bitch is going to use his OFA organization as a front for anti-Trump activity.

First President in perhaps 100 years who didn't really go away. So, a lot of people will be keeping tabs on him. I will be one of those people.

And you kissed Obama's arse for 8 years, so don't deny it now.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:00 pm to
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First President in perhaps 100 years who didn't really go away.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but in 2017, unlike most of history, one doesn't have to be anywhere near a physical location to meddle in its affairs.

So he could do pretty much anything in Hawaii as DC.
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