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Rand Paul Setting His Sights On Latinos

Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:45 pm
First the Black outreach initiative, and now Hispanics. Got to give him credit for trying. I guess he's heeding Bobby Jindal's advice. Minorities won't vote for you if they think you don't like them.

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) turned to one of the Bush family's rising stars for some "advice" on connecting with a key voting bloc.

Politico reported Friday that Paul met with George P. Bush in Dallas, picking his brain on how the GOP could prosper in areas with heavy Latino populations. The 37-year-old Bush is running for Texas Land Commissioner in 2014, and considered a hot prospect among conservative Hispanics.

According to the Politico report, Bush said the party should be "showing up" in Latino strongholds. Bush also tweeted a picture of the pair, saying how great it was to meet up.

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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:48 pm to
Pretty tough to convince a group as impoverished as Latinos that gubment is bad.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:49 pm to
Latino's are very conservative in many of their beliefs.

Despite what a lot of the media says, many US Latino's are against blanket amnesty program.

This is a prime voting block the GOP should be going after.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:49 pm to
Rand Paul is seriously the GOP's best shot and if he gets the nomination, he will be the most credible and worthy GOP nominee for President since Ronald Reagan.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:53 pm to
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The 37-year-old Bush is running for Texas Land Commissioner in 2014


F da Bushes
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Rand Paul is seriously the GOP's best shot and if he gets the nomination, he will be the most credible and worthy GOP nominee for President since Ronald Reagan.

He would have to run a totally different type of campaign than Reagan in order to win. In 1980, the electorate was 90% White, which is why Reagan could get away with going to Philadelphia, MS and giving a state's right speech. By 2016 the electorate will be less than 70% White.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:09 pm to
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) turned to one of the Bush family's rising stars for some "advice" on connecting with a key voting bloc.
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According to the Politico report, Bush said the party should be "showing up" in Latino strongholds. Bush also tweeted a picture of the pair, saying how great it was to meet up.
Lot of ramifications.
Pretty strong indicator Jeb is not running.
Paul looking to consolidate that wing of the party, before Rubio has a chance to move on it.

This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 9:10 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:00 pm to
As a minority, are you even interested in this?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:07 pm to
What kind of question is this? This is a political forum. Do you think minorities have no interest in politics?
Posted by RedStickBR
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:11 pm to
By the way, when I see George P. Bush, I can't help but think of:

Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:15 pm to
It's a perfectly political question. Could someone like Rand Paul have any real pull with minorities (this is obviously a generalization, but let's face it, Republicans aren't pulling down much of the black vote, which probably has next to nothing to do with their actual politics). So I'll ask again, Paul seems to view himself as the type of transformational politician who can appeal to minorities, do you agree?
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:19 pm to
The crazy thing is that hispanics as a group are very religious and very conservative, but promise them money and they just blindly vote democrat.

The only people who hate abortion and gay marriage more than old white people are hispanics. It's just shocking how people's vote can be bought.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:20 pm to
You could say the same for A-As.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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46505 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:41 pm to
While true, a lot of AAs still carry around the slavery baggage and have a grudge against conservative white people. They have other reasons besides government bribery.
Posted by mmcgrath
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:54 pm to
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The only people who hate abortion and gay marriage more than old white people are hispanics.
Not true. While very deeply religious and conservative the are not against gay marriage. They may have concerns against abortion... probably more than the average non-Hispanic American but less than the conservative right.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:55 pm to
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Could someone like Rand Paul have any real pull with minorities

I think minorities will listen to anybody who makes a sincere effort to reach out to them the way Paul has been doing.
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but let's face it, Republicans aren't pulling down much of the black vote, which probably has next to nothing to do with their actual politics

This is where you lose me.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:01 am to
Blacks changed philosophies in the early 20th century. From reconstruction to 1920s, Blacks admired people like booker T. Washington, then they started believing in the words of Dubois.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:13 am to
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Blacks changed philosophies in the early 20th century. From reconstruction to 1920s, Blacks admired people like booker T. Washington, then they started believing in the words of Dubois.

There was something else that happened in the mid-60's that affected both Blacks and southern Whites.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69213 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:38 am to
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There was something else that happened in the mid-60's that affected both Blacks and southern Whites.
Blacks were firmly in the democratic tent by the 1940s. Part of that reason was the great Mississippi flood during Coolidge's time as president, and the disastrous way his administration handled it.
Posted by Socratics
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:46 am to
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The crazy thing is that hispanics as a group are very religious and very conservative, but promise them money and they just blindly vote democrat.

The only people who hate abortion and gay marriage more than old white people are hispanics. It's just shocking how people's vote can be bought.




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Latinos’ views of same-sex marriage have changed dramatically in recent years. In 2012 for the first time, more Latinos said they favored same-sex marriage than opposed it (52% versus 34%) according to a Pew Hispanic Center survey. This is a reversal from six years earlier, when one-third (31%) of Latinos favored same-sex marriage and more than half (56%) opposed it. This shift in views tracks with that of the general public, whose opinions on same-sex marriage have also changed in recent years.


It really old people in general who oppose same-sex marriage.

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Latinos support a woman's right to make decisions.
74% of Latino registered voters agree that a woman has a right to make her own personal, private decisions about abortion without politicians interfering.

Latinos don't think we should judge other women's decisions.
73% of Latino registered voters agree that we should not judge someone who feels they are not ready to be a parent. 57% strongly agrees with this statement.

Latinos are supportive of close friends and family members choosing abortion.
67% of Latino voters say they would give support to a close friend or family member who had an abortion. 43% say they would provide a lot of support. Only 23% says they would not feel comfortable offering support.

Latinos don't think money should determine access to abortion.
61% agree that the amount of money a woman has or does not have should not determine whether she could have an abortion when she needs one.

Latinos are willing to disagree with church leaders.
68% agree with the statement “even though church leaders take a position against abortion, when it comes to the law, I believe it should remain legal.”


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Hispanics are also sharply divided by religion on the issue of abortion. Less than half (47%) of Hispanic Catholics say abortion should be legal in all or most cases; a majority (52%) say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. Mainline Protestants have a similar profile to Catholics on this issue. Evangelical Protestants have the most conservative footprint of any religious group on this issue, with nearly three-quarters (74%) saying abortion should be illegal in all or most cases. By contrast, nearly 7-in-10 (69%) religiously unaffiliated Hispanics say abortion should be legal in all or most cases.


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Hispanic and African-Americans liked using both of the phrases "pro-life" and "pro-choice" to describe themselves. Seventy-one percent of black Americans and 77 percent of Hispanics said that "pro-life" describes them very well, but at the same time 75 percent of black Americans and 72 percent of Hispanics said the same of the phrase "pro-choice."





I would take all abortion polls with salt. All of them seem to give you different results depending on how you ask the question. Abortion isn't the reason that the majority of Hispanics are starting to tilt towards democrats.



Hispanics don't vote Republican because they don't believe you actually care about them. A lot of people tend to vote more on emotion than facts. George Bush actually had a majority of the Hispanic Vote when he ran for president and a relative high percentage of the African American vote.

George Bush actually championed comprehensive immigration reform. The longer Republicans drag their feet on immigration reform the more its going to hurt them. Taking that issue alone off the table would greatly change elections. This issue is like a rope hanging around Republican Presidential Candidates necks.

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At this very early stage in the 2014 election cycle, Hispanic likely voters report preferring Democratic congressional candidates to Republican congressional candidates by a 2-to-1 ratio (58% vs. 28%). Among likely Hispanic voters, a majority (54%) say they would be less likely to support a candidate who opposes immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship for immigrants who are currently living in the country illegally. One-in-four (25%) say they would be more likely to vote for such a candidate, and 19% report that the candidate’s views on immigration would make no difference in their vote.



I give Rand Paul a gold star for effort. I don't think their has been a republican who has tried harder to reach out to minorities in the last decade. That actually includes minority politicians in the Republican Party.
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