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Protocol for handling Sarin gas attack---- dispelling WhiskeyP and GoldNugget
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:55 am
We have a few people trying hard to present "evidence" that it was not a sarin gas attack in Syria. The number 1.....#1 thing they are using.... video evidence.
Today, Goldnugget tried to use 2 videos from zero-hedge. The over all theme is that they are not wearing a mask or a suit..etc.
Evidently, protocol means nothing unless it's level A- red zone.
1- Sarin gas is classified as "GB". The PERSISTENCE of it is 10 minutes to 24 hours. What does that mean? It means that it's only a Level A for that time period and only if the test show an AEGL-2 or higher.
In a level A (red zone), they would have a valid question as to why they were not wearing a complete suit. However, you have to keep in mind the PERSISTENCE time frame. 10 minutes to 24 hours.
2- Obviously the PERSISTENCE of 10 minutes to 24 hours is OVER. The attack happened early April. It has long since been past Level A.
This means the area is below AEGL-1. AEGL-1 susceptible individuals could experience notable discomfort, irritation, or certain asymptomatic nonsensory effects. However, the effects are not disabling and are transient and reversible upon cessation of exposure.
At this point, we are looking at a Level D... the contaminant and concentration of the contaminant are known and the concentration is below the appropriate occupational exposure limit or less than AEGL-1 for the stated duration times. Gloves, work clothing, boots are recommended.
OSHA guide
CDC-levels and zones
Today, Goldnugget tried to use 2 videos from zero-hedge. The over all theme is that they are not wearing a mask or a suit..etc.
Evidently, protocol means nothing unless it's level A- red zone.
1- Sarin gas is classified as "GB". The PERSISTENCE of it is 10 minutes to 24 hours. What does that mean? It means that it's only a Level A for that time period and only if the test show an AEGL-2 or higher.
In a level A (red zone), they would have a valid question as to why they were not wearing a complete suit. However, you have to keep in mind the PERSISTENCE time frame. 10 minutes to 24 hours.
2- Obviously the PERSISTENCE of 10 minutes to 24 hours is OVER. The attack happened early April. It has long since been past Level A.
This means the area is below AEGL-1. AEGL-1 susceptible individuals could experience notable discomfort, irritation, or certain asymptomatic nonsensory effects. However, the effects are not disabling and are transient and reversible upon cessation of exposure.
At this point, we are looking at a Level D... the contaminant and concentration of the contaminant are known and the concentration is below the appropriate occupational exposure limit or less than AEGL-1 for the stated duration times. Gloves, work clothing, boots are recommended.
OSHA guide
CDC-levels and zones
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 2:05 pm
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:59 am to MButterfly
Sounds believable to me. Upvote.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:09 am to MButterfly
quote:Am I the only one enjoying the irony here?
Protocol for handling Sarin gas attack---- dispelling conspiracy theories of False Flags
The "anti-establishment" Trumpophants are desperately trying to convince people that the establishment agenda of painting Assad as a baby-killing tyrant is real.
You can't make this stuff up.....or can you?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:20 am to TX Tiger
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The "anti-establishment" Trumpophants are desperately trying to convince people that the establishment agenda of painting Assad as a baby-killing tyrant is real.
No, just the sane people pointing out that the "evidence" is actually proving you and them wrong.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:36 am to MButterfly
It doesn't matter what the agent was. It matters who the perpetrators were.
And that appears to us, the Israelis or a proxy of one of the above.
And that appears to us, the Israelis or a proxy of one of the above.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:38 am to MButterfly
quote:You're making my point. You Trumpophants insist upon backing the establishment agenda.
The "anti-establishment" Trumpophants are desperately trying to convince people that the establishment agenda of painting Assad as a baby-killing tyrant is real.
No, just the sane people pointing out that the "evidence" is actually proving you and them wrong.
Why do you think the media is playing up the "Assad is a baby-killer" angle? Because this government cares so deeply about the rest of the world's people?
It doesn't care about its own people. Why on Earth would you fall for the garbage that it cares about someone halfway around the globe?
You "anti-establishment" types are falling right into the establishment trap and you don't even realize it.
I'm not surprised - you fell for Trump being anti-establishment.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:04 pm to MButterfly
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dispelling conspiracy theories of False Flags
You're better off running head first into a brick wall over and over. It would probably be more enjoyable and productive.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:56 pm to RabidTiger
You have a point.
I love with this thread you have one stating that we are proving them right because we are following the establishment. You can't reason with that mindset. He's not even grasping what this thread is about.
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You're better off running head first into a brick wall over and over. It would probably be more enjoyable and productive.
I love with this thread you have one stating that we are proving them right because we are following the establishment. You can't reason with that mindset. He's not even grasping what this thread is about.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:02 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It doesn't matter what the agent was.
Then why was your argument (more than once) that this wasn't a sarin attack?
LINK
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There was no Sarin attack in Syria the other day. False Flag.
Your words and you based it off of "information" that was wrong. Yet you keep pushing that.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:05 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It doesn't matter what the agent was. It matters who the perpetrators were.
And that appears to us, the Israelis or a proxy of one of the above.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:06 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Am I the only one enjoying the irony here?
The "anti-establishment" Trumpophants are desperately trying to convince people that the establishment agenda of painting Assad as a baby-killing tyrant is real.
You can't make this stuff up.....or can you?
Boggles the mind
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:09 pm to goldennugget
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quote:
It doesn't matter what the agent was. It matters who the perpetrators were.
And that appears to us, the Israelis or a proxy of one of the above.
You started a thread with the claim that the edited video proved that it was not a sarin attack. You pointed out that the clothing and mask etc was proof. It's not.
You pointed out that the birds in a cage being placed in a bag was somehow proof.
So now we are changing it to "It appears to us Israel did this"
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:10 pm to MButterfly
Syrian planes bombed a building containing chemicals belonging to al nusra front. Assad ordered no such chemical attacks. You realize a chemical attack in 2013 blamed on Assad was proven to be false as well?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:12 pm to goldennugget
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The "anti-establishment" Trumpophants are desperately trying to convince people that the establishment agenda of painting Assad as a baby-killing tyrant is real.
You read way too much in to this thread. This is strictly about GoldNugget and Whiskey stating the videos and pictures prove it wasn't even a sarin attack.
They have been proven wrong so many times on just this topic. So instead of replying to every thread to where they can bury the post... I decided to put it in plain view for everybody.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:14 pm to MButterfly
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They have been proven wrong so many times on just this topic. So instead of replying to every thread to where they can bury the post... I decided to put it in plain view for everybody.
Assad did not launch any attack and I am sticking with it
The lengths you guys go to defend the establishment is ridiculous.
How and when did the anti-establishment tone this board was filled with change? SC Libertarian said it best. I made a post this morning pointing out John Bolton is a neocon who we should not be listening to. I got more downvotes than upvotes. 6 months ago that same post would have gotten hardly any downvotes at all.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:14 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Syrian planes bombed a building containing chemicals belonging to al nusra front. Assad ordered no such chemical attacks. You realize a chemical attack in 2013 blamed on Assad was proven to be false as well?
Start a thread about it. This is on the protocol for sarin gas response teams.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:19 pm to goldennugget
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Assad did not launch any attack and I am sticking with it
Then offer proof outside the BS videos and pictures that DO NOT prove anything.
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The lengths you guys go to defend the establishment is ridiculous
Oh no. I don't care for the establishment, but I'm not so far gone that I have lost contact with facts. You posted today videos that prove the attack was not sarin gas and made up. The reason was gloves were worn and nothing else.
I'm pointing out your proof is only proof of them following proper protocol.
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How and when did the anti-establishment tone this board was filled with change? SC Libertarian said it best. I made a post this morning pointing out John Bolton is a neocon who we should not be listening to. I got more downvotes than upvotes. 6 months ago that same post would have gotten hardly any downvotes at all.
The answer to that is in this thread. When you post things like "It was a sarin gas attack and this picture proves it. This video proves it" but we all know it doesn't.... it damages your stance.
One shouldn't have to lie about their stance in order to prove they are right. If you are having to do that, maybe it's a simpler issue. Maybe you are simply wrong.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:22 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It doesn't matter what the agent was. It matters who the perpetrators were.
And that appears to us, the Israelis or a proxy of one of the above.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:29 pm to MButterfly
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One shouldn't have to lie about their stance in order to prove they are right. If you are having to do that, maybe it's a simpler issue. Maybe you are simply wrong.
More people need to embrace this.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:33 pm to Jjdoc
Lol. This is rich.
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