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Problems With CrowdStrike's Anti-Russian Narrative Starting to Gain Media Traction
Posted on 4/7/17 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 6:40 am
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EXCLUSIVE: Cybersecurity experts who were first to conclude that Putin hacked presidential election ABANDON some of their claims against Russia - and refuse to co-operate with Congress
By Alana Goodman
5 April 2017
- Claims of Russian interference in the presidential election through hacking Democratic emails have been long-running scandal
- First link between hacking and Vladimir Putin was made by CrowdStrike, Irvine, CA, based firm hired by the Democratic National Committee
- It concluded in June 2016 Moscow spies had hacked DNC - before embarrassing emails were published - setting off Russian election scandal
- Cybersecurity firm examined DNC's servers, something FBI was not allowed to do, and its conclusion has been repeated by the intelligence community
- DailyMail.com reveals it has had to abandon key claims in another report on hacking by same Russians it blamed for DNC attack
- It used unproven claims by a pro-Putin blogger to wrongly conclude Russian hackers had helped to virtually wipe out Ukrainian artillery
- CrowdStrike is also refusing to testify in public to the House Intelligence Committee on what it knows and declined to speak to DailyMail.com
LINK
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:05 am to NC_Tigah
Democrats lied. Who would have thunk?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:08 am to NC_Tigah
So MUH RUSSIANS is all attached to a fake dossier and this this cybersecurity firm whom lied but the FBI took their word for it??!?!?!
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:09 am to NC_Tigah
Anyone with half a brain knew this was a lie from the outset.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:41 am to imjustafatkid
quote:I wonder what % of the public knows the FBI never laid eyes on the DNC server
Anyone with half a brain knew this was a lie from the outset.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:43 am to NC_Tigah
This will get ugly for the prog filth
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:45 am to CptBengal
I have doubts about it getting ugly for them.
Lois Lerner and her boss should be in jail.
Lois Lerner and her boss should be in jail.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 7:46 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:20 am to CptBengal
People should go to prison for this
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:29 am to NC_Tigah
The Crowdstrike report on Ukrainian artillery losses was only changed to reflect the number of units lost. The correction has nothing to do with their analysis of the malware and does not affect their attribution of the DNC hack.
LINK
Also, keep in mind that most security researchers and countries (who have been previously hacked by the same groups) that have been following these hackers for *years* agree on the attribution.
A little weird to see people only going after Crowdstrike's work.
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MARCH 2017 UPDATE: The information about the combat losses of the D-30 artillery units suffered by Ukrainian forces has been updated with the latest analysis from Henry Boyd, International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Research Associate for Defence and Military Analysis.
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According to an update provided in March 2017 by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Research Associate for Defence and Military Analysis, Henry Boyd, “excluding the Naval Infantry battalion in the Crimea which was effectively captured wholesale, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost between 15% and 20% of their pre-war D–30 inventory in combat operations.”
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The collection of such tactical artillery force positioning intelligence by FANCY BEAR further supports CrowdStrike’s previous assessments that FANCY BEAR is likely affiliated with the Russian military intelligence (GRU), and works closely with Russian military forces operating in Eastern Ukraine and its border regions in Russia.
LINK
Also, keep in mind that most security researchers and countries (who have been previously hacked by the same groups) that have been following these hackers for *years* agree on the attribution.
A little weird to see people only going after Crowdstrike's work.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:32 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:38 am to Decatur
Then why won't the dnc alow the fbi to examine the servers. I mean, we are embroiled in a massively expensive investigation and the proverbial murder weapon is being withheld from independent federal investigators.
Don't you find that odd considering Russia, Assange, and GucciFer 2.0 all claim it was not russia?
Don't you find that odd considering Russia, Assange, and GucciFer 2.0 all claim it was not russia?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:40 am to NC_Tigah
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Putin hacked presidential election
That's an impressive spin machine.
No one hacked "the presidential election".
They hacked the DNC and Hillary to expose some of the most blatant corruption seen in a while
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:42 am to roadGator
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I have doubts about it getting ugly for them.
Lois Lerner and her boss should be in jail.
James Comey should have been fired for gross incompetence the moment Trump became President.
Our whole government is a sham who keeps those in power safe from consequences.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:49 am to Vacherie Saint
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Then why won't the dnc alow the fbi to examine the servers. I
I'm pretty sure the FBI has said that they have gotten everything they need from them. As I understand they don't necessarily need the physical hardware if they can get disk images, logs, etc.
Also, you should understand that the NSA had been aware of and watching the hackers before the DNC was even informed. I'm sure the NSA's tools and capabilities are more advanced than Crowdstrike's.
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(Reuters) - U.S. intelligence officials told top congressional leaders a year ago that Russian hackers were attacking the Democratic Party, three sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday, but the lawmakers were unable to tell the targets about the hacking because the information was so secret.
The disclosure of the Top Secret information would have revealed that U.S. intelligence agencies were continuing to monitor the hacking, as well as the sensitive intelligence sources and the methods they were using to do it.
The material was marked with additional restrictions and assigned a unique codeword, limiting access to a small number of officials who needed to know that U.S. spy agencies had concluded that two Russian intelligence agencies or their proxies were targeting the Democratic National Committee, the central organizing body of the Democratic Party.
The National Security Agency and other intelligence agencies sometimes delay informing targets of foreign intelligence activities under similar circumstances, officials have said.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:54 am to Vacherie Saint
Decatur is all in. Good luck.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:02 am to NC_Tigah
Where did Trumps 13 sexual harassment accusers go?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:04 am to roadGator
More from yesterday's thread on this.
LINK
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As Carr notes, the FBI never examined the servers that were hacked at the Democratic National Committee. Instead, the DNC used the private computer security company CrowdStrike to detect and repair the penetrations.
“All the forensic work on those servers was done by CrowdStrike, and everyone else is relying on information they provided,” said Carr. “And CrowdStrike was the one to declare this the work of the Russians.”
The CrowdStrike argument relies heavily on the fact that remnants of a piece of malware known as AGENT-X were found in the DNC computers. AGENT-X collects and transmits hacked files to rogue computers.
“AGENT-X has been around for ages and ages, and its use has always been attributed to the Russian government, a theory that’s known in the industry as ‘exclusive use,’” Carr said. “The problem with exclusive use is that it’s completely false. Unlike a bomb or an artillery shell, malware doesn’t detonate on impact and destroy itself.
“You can recover it, reverse-engineer it, and reuse it. The U.S. government learned a lesson about that when it created the Stuxnet computer worm to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. Stuxnet survived and now other people have it.”
Carr said he is aware of at least two working copies of AGENT-X outside Russian hands. One is in the possession of a group of Ukrainian hackers he has spoken with, and the other is with an American cybersecurity company. “And if an American security company has it, you can be certain other people do, too,” he said.
LINK
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:05 am to Vacherie Saint
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Comey said the FBI would have preferred to "get access to the original device or server" that was the target of hacking at the DNC. CNN previously reported that the Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election.
The FBI instead relied on the assessment of a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke. Comey told senators that the "highly respected private company eventually got access and shared" the evidence with the FBI.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:09 am to Decatur
Right. Wtf else were they supposed to do? That same link states that the fbi requested the servers multiple times and at multiple levels, only to be denied.
So answer my question. Why wouldn't the dnc allow the fbi, who is leading the investigation, examine the key piece of evidence? To date, it is allegedly the only hard evidence of Russian hacking.
So answer my question. Why wouldn't the dnc allow the fbi, who is leading the investigation, examine the key piece of evidence? To date, it is allegedly the only hard evidence of Russian hacking.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:10 am to Decatur
quote:That confirms the previous post. The FBI never examined the server. They relied on another party's investigation. That is shoddy work, imo.
The FBI instead relied on the assessment of a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke. Comey told senators that the "highly respected private company eventually got access and shared" the evidence with the FBI.
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