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AlaTiger
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Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.

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Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.


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Pro-Lifers have won this argument from every possible philosophical and ethical direction, yet we find that we live in a country that doesn't care about that and that only cares about what is the perceived benefit in the moment for whoever is in control.

What makes us different from Nazi Germany when we have killed 55 million babies and it is now being admitted that yes, we did legally KILL 55 million BABIES???

How does anyone take the Sandy Hook rhetoric seriously?

How can anyone think that that Pro-Choicers care anything at all about children?

This is insanity.


catholictigerfan
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
there are already people like this, I think there are some professors at high end schools like Harvard and such who are for infanticide. This is nothing new, maybe this will help people realize how crazy that abortion stance is if you believe its a human being.


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ScoopAndScore
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.

Wow, just wow. Clear proof that Liberalism is a mental disorder.


joshnorris14
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
The is the Libertarian Evictionist/Parasite argument. And Salon is right.


Broketec
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
Hmm...no where in that artcile does it say that Pro Abortionists Finallhy Admit They are Killing Babies.

"non-autonomous entity" does not equal a baby.

I'm pro life but ffs, this is one hell of an inflamatory effort to get people who agree with you to agree with you out loud. This article is far from ground breaking and your thread title is false.

A fetus is a fetus. A baby is a baby.
A non-autonomous entity =/= a baby.
And Liberals who are pro choice (the "they" you reference in your thread title) aren't killing anyone, let alone babies, unless they are actually performing the abortion themselves.

Steaming pile of rhetoric is what this is.
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Tactical1
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Pro-Lifers have won this argument from every possible philosophical and ethical direction,


No, they have not.


TK421
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Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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A fetus is a fetus. A baby is a baby.


And both are forms of human life.


mtntiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
Wow. I guess the science is irrefutable for this lib, but it still doesn't matter. The here and now is all that matters.


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Broketec
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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And both are forms of human life.


Thank you Captain Obvious.


TK421
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Member since Oct 2011
9158 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
You were making a semantics argument.


Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Wow, just wow. Clear proof that Liberalism is a mental disorder.




^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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AlaTiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2006
15914 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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The is the Libertarian Evictionist/Parasite argument. And Salon is right.


Right about what?

If whether or not a life can be terminated is decided by whoever has power and by whoever decides if it can live or not, think of the implications of that argument.

Infanticide is permissable.

Euthanasia of anyone deemed to be a problem or to not have a "quality of life" is permissable.

But, who decides that? The one with the power.

So, gaining power is the goal, not living by truth or a set of inalienable rights.

It is confusing to me how the same people who argue this line about abortion can then turn around and be for gay marriage on the basis of human rights. If rights are only conveyed by those who have power and are not inalienable, then why should the majority just eliminate every person that they find distasteful or that creates a burden on society. Yes, I admit that I am sliding down the slippery slope, but I cannot find philosophical distinctions that keep me from falling off that cliff.

Either life is valuable and worth saving or it only has value if those in power declare it to have value. In this case, the mother is the one who has power. But, what keeps it from stopping there? What if "power" and "usefulness" become the deciding factors?

55 million babies dead is horrible enough. I am just saying that the horror will only get worse instead of better if we keep going with this line of thinking.


Broketec
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
I'm making a statement about the fact that the article is rhetoric and the OP's entire post is inflamatory with a false thread title.



buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Pro-Lifers have won this argument from every possible philosophical and ethical direction,


No, they have not.

yeah, in fact, I would say they have lost most of the arguments, whether philosophical or ethical.


TK421
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
9158 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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yeah, in fact, I would say they have lost most of the arguments, whether philosophical or ethical.


Only to people without ethics.


joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21521 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Right about what?



The ability a person has to evict an entity from their property (IE Their body).

And trust me, it will get better. As science improves the viability age less and less of the aborted pregnancies will lead to death.

In a few decades, the Libertarian Evictionist position will be the killing aborted fetuses is wrong given that they are viable outside of the womb.
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Broketec
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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Only to people without ethics.


That statement holds no water when our definition of ethical and moral, for decades, has been defined by who agrees with us and people who simply think differenly than you are obviously immoral and unethical.


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buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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yeah, in fact, I would say they have lost most of the arguments, whether philosophical or ethical.


Only to people without ethics

This is why you lose arguments. There are many different ways to structure belief systems.


mtntiger
LSU Fan
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
9870 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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A non-autonomous entity =/= a baby.


Au contraire, mon ami.

How many babies do you know who are autonomous in every regard?


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AlaTiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2006
15914 posts

re: Pro-Abortionists Finally Admitting They are Killing Babies. And they don't care.
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I'm making a statement about the fact that the article is rhetoric and the OP's entire post is inflamatory with a false thread title.


Then your reading comprehension is zero.

Go back and read her article again.

I don't have any desire to respond to you if you cannot understand what she is saying. She is very clear.


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