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re: President Trump on wind-generated electricity

Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:38 pm to
Good Lord. Our president is such an idiot.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:43 pm to
seriously curious why anyone thinks this statement by trump is not idiotic ...
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

We should put burn barrels under tanks of water all over the country and tell millenials that zim or zey was denied free access to gender fluidity at those places.


There would be an outpouring of screams of racism from the libtards if this were implemented.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

What a moron!




He knows his base
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:12 pm to
He has a point. Until energy storage becomes economic, the only choice you're left with if 100% of your energy comes from wind is to risk brown/blackouts.

Further, while Iowa has a lot of wind capacity, coal is still its primary source of energy (~47%). That compares to only about 19% for a "dirty" state like Louisiana.

Know what that means? Iowa has a lot of "clean energy" to appease people like you, while betting on the fact you're uninformed enough not to realize they're balancing out wind's unreliability with dirty, baseload coal.

It appears from your post their bet was right.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

And the most recent study says the number of birds killed by windmills has had no real impact on US bird populations or species.

Funny, I don't see a link to this "most recent study."

Do 4 out of 5 Avian Experts agree?
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12904 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:19 pm to
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Wind turbines kill an estimated 140,000 to 328,000 birds each year in North America, making it the most threatening form of green energy.


Audubon Study
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:22 pm to
Denmark gets nearly 40 percent of their power form wind, btw.

but of course the real point is that trump is for things like coal, and theres no way for him to rail against modern solar, so he says dumb shite like this.

as if the trumps actually give a shite about animals






Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37450 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

trump is for things like coal,


What do you recommend we replace 30.4% of US energy with overnight?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25292 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

2. Cell towers and power lines kill more birds than windmills. And the most recent study says the number of birds killed by windmills has had no real impact on US bird populations or species
So you have no problem with the cops taking out a "street entrepreneurs" then right?

Street Men Lives Don't Matter
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29448 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

"The wind kills all your birds," Trump said at an August rally. "All your birds, killed.

All of them?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

What do you recommend we replace 30.4% of US energy with overnight?
is that how you think this works? you think costa rica went from fossil fuels one day to getting 100 percent of their power from renewable energy the next?

or do you think maybe there was some planning involved?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81219 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:38 pm to
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dirty, baseload coal.


This is just false - we're mining tons of clean burning coal now. Trump said it at his rallies many times, that I can tell you. It was one of his biggest selling points for coal.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37450 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:41 pm to
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is that how you think this works?


You're the one who moans and complains like a girl when someone supports coal.

It will take years and years if not decades to move away from coal and multiply natural gas infrastructure and other forms of energy.

Coal will likely still be used in a considerable quantity for the next half century
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24592 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:42 pm to
Wind farms are extremely expensive to build the wall is peanuts compared.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:44 pm to
I sense sarcasm, but don't see your point
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53765 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:46 pm to
George, you need to learn how to understand Trump ...how he talks and what he means....

You can't take him literally when he says "all your birds"

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Iowa gets almost a third of its energy from wind, the highest percentage of any state.


Thats nice. What is the actual cost compared to other sources without subsidies?
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