Pilot accused of syrian chemical attack reportedly killed by car bomb

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Probabaly the CIA. They don't want the real story getting out.

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Probabaly the CIA. They don't want the real story getting out.

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Definitely suggests a cover up.

The 'Sarin' attack was definitely a false flag op and almost certainly not even Sarin.

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Definitely suggests a cover up.

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Or....it could be Kurdish rebels retaliating against the government by killing the public face of the attack? Nah...that'd be too simple.

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Those people killed in the attack were not killed by Sarin gas. Some of them were foaming at the mouth. I saw that my self on the news. Foaming at the mouth is not a symptom of nerve gas exposure. What would cause foaming would involve the process of breathing. Sarin keeps you from breathing by attacking your nervous system and of course the diaphragm.

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Wut?

Foaming at the mouth is caused by excess saliva and the esophagus being blocked, symptoms of exposure to nerve agents.

I'll take the word of the OPCW over WhiskeyPapa

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When exposed to a low dose of nerve agent, causing minor poisoning, characteristic symptoms are increased production of saliva, a running nose and a feeling of pressure on the chest. The pupil of the eye becomes contracted (miosis) which impairs night-vision. The accommodation capacity of the eye is also reduced so that short-range vision deteriorates and the victim feels pain when he tries to focus on an object nearby. This is accompanied by headache. More unspecific symptoms are tiredness, slurred speech, hallucinations and nausea. Exposure to a higher dose leads to a more dramatic development and symptoms are more pronounced. Bronchoconstriction and secretion of mucous in the respiratory system leads to difficulty in breathing and to coughing. Discomfort in the gastrointestinal tract may develop into cramp and vomiting. Involuntary discharge of urine and defecation may also form part of the picture. The discharge of saliva is powerful and the victim may experience running eyes and sweating. Symptoms from the skeletal muscles are very typical. If the poisoning is moderate, this may express itself as muscular weakness, local tremors or convulsions. When exposed to a high dose of nerve agent, the muscular symptoms are more pronounced. The victim may suffer convulsions and lose consciousness. To some extent, the poisoning process may be so rapid that earlier mentioned symptoms may never have time to develop.

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It's unfortunate that posters like WhiskeyPapa and Goldennugget have taken over this once great political talk board.

Increased salivia is not the same thing as foaming at the mouth.

It just isn't.



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Jump to 4:29 mark on the link. Increased saliva is not not mentioned as an effect of nerve gas exposure in any case.

Frothy blood coming from the mouth is a by-product of having blood in the lungs as from a gun shot. Froth is going to come from air mixing with a substance in the lungs and being expelled. That doesn't happen with nerve gas exposure because you can't breathe.

Spout all the bullshite you like. This "not Sarin" angle is just one part of the story. Assad had no reason to be gassing his own people because the curve was strongly favoring him in this conflict.

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Or....it could be Kurdish rebels retaliating against the government by killing the public face of the attack? Nah...that'd be too simple.

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To be honest, the Kurds for years have told us they would do the dirty work if we would just arm them. If anyone has been on our side fighting terrorists it is the Kurds.

They are brave fighters and furthermore have a very good chain of cammand for a ragtag millitary. Some in this country always bitch about "arming someone else is not a solution."

bullshite, the Kurds have been persecuted so long they don't mind dying to destroy the same people we are up against.

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It's unfortunate that posters like WhiskeyPapa and Goldennugget have taken over this once great political talk board.

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We don't like dead soldiers and Marines killed for not a goddamned thing -- of having our military carry out the objectives of another country that directly contradict our best interests.

Iraq was a bulwark against Saudi Arabia; that is why the Reagan Administration supported them against Iran. One that WE removed on behalf of Israel - but one that would have always given the worthless arse Saudis pause. Now Saudi Arabia is unrestrained in its efforts to cause us ill.

The big takeaway here is that our government will work against our best interests and send our young people to die for Wall Street profits. Hillary Couldn't WAIT to crank up the largest war possible just for the purpose of serving the Military/Congressional Industrial Complex.

Now it appears that Trump has caved. He will abandon his supporters and war with Russia on behalf of Israel.

Iran was an important ally of ours in the region for decades and should be again. We bear bait the Iranians because that is what the Jewish State wants.

It is way past time that our foreign policy serves us not Israel.

How should it work over there? What is our best policy? Using history as our guide always, we can look at the Brits going back to the Golden Age under Elizabeth.

Brit policy was to support a weaker continental country against the strongest continental country. Spain ascendant? Support the Dutch. France Ascendant? Support the Spanish. Russia a problem? Ally with France and support Turkey. Germany ascendant? Support France. Germans at your throat again? Support France again. Unceremoniously ejected from the continent? Enlist the United States.

That policy works. It worked for the Brits for 300 years. We are doing exactly the opposite in our policy. The ally we need in that region is IRAN. We pretty much shanghaied them into being our ally in the 1950's. After their revolution we should have enlisted them as such again. The Reagan Administration took them a cake. The Iranians have a large population they have a long and proud history and they are NOT Arab. They hate the Arabs. THEY could act as a foil to Saudi Arabia., which is our greatest enemy in the region by far, and perhaps the world.

Supporting the second strongest power in a region against the strongest is a proven policy.

We don't pursue that policy because the Jews don't like it.

In fact, the Reagan Administration supported Iran AND Iraq in their war from 1980-88. Because both of those countries acted as a check on the Saudis. SA is now unrestrained in its attempts to do us ill.

But the Israelis could care less what happens to us.

The car bomb was a false flag.