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Peter Thiel Up for Key Intel Position, Wants to Limit Google's Power

Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:39 pm
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:39 pm
From Newsmax:
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Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel has been in serious talks with the White House about a "significant" position heading up President Donald Trump's intelligence advisory board, Vanity Fair reported.

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Thiel "is super-concerned about Amazon and Google," a Trump administration source told Vanity Fair.

Thiel "feels they have become New Age global fascists in terms of how they're controlling the media, how they're controlling information that flows to the public, even how they're purging people from think tanks," the source told VF. "He's concerned about the monopolistic tendencies of [all three] companies and how they deny economic well-being to people they disagree with."



A-fricking-men. It's amazing how the libs ignore all the problems with giving Google as much power as they have. It seems they are all for the greedy capitalist pigs as long as those capitalist pigs share their political views and brainwash people with propaganda of which the libs approve.

We broke up AT&T back in the day and pretty much everyone agreed it needed to be done. It's time for Google to face the same fate. Same goes for Facebook (Thiel has a 10% stake in FB).

Hire this guy, Trump. Take down those Google fascists.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:41 pm to
So, to clarify, you're championing big government intrusion into private business? Interesting.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:44 pm to
Businesses with high amounts of collaboration with the intelligence and defense industries are anything but private. At this point, major tech companies are part of the corporatist complex and are only nominally private.

ETA: My preference would be for the government to have nothing at all to do with Google et. al, but as long as there is cooperation between the two, an enormous amount of scrutiny must be applied. The control of information is probably the most crucial power in today's age, so I'm not going to be all, "but muh shareholders", when it can be a demonstrable threat to public influence.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:44 pm to
I think antitrust regulation is an important part of what the govnerment does, and I'll be curious to see what kind of response you get here.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:46 pm to
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Businesses with high amounts of collaboration with the intelligence and defense industries are anything but private. At this point, major tech companies are part of the corporatist complex and are only nominally private.


Wow. Okay that's an interesting take. Anyone want to respond to that? Where is SFP when you need him?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:47 pm to
Google is a more dangerous and powerful monopoly than any monopoly that has ever existed on earth.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

I think antitrust regulation is an important part of what the govnerment does, and I'll be curious to see what kind of response you get here.
Goes beyond antitrust


These tech firms needs to be held accountable for importing dangerous people from the orient to do their jobs, instead of hiring americans.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:48 pm to
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I think antitrust regulation is an important part of what the govnerment does, and I'll be curious to see what kind of response you get here.


Even if you busted up google a la at&t, where do you think the baby googles would come from, Omaha? Of course not it would be Silicon Valley.
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:51 pm to
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Even if you busted up google a la at&t, where do you think the baby googles would come from, Omaha? Of course not it would be Silicon Valley.



I think there is a huge amount of potential for decentralized search engines that aren't really a business at all, but I'm not savvy enough to know how.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:52 pm to
You've said that before and I can only hope it's a late night troll because it's one of the more asinine things I've seen proposed here.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:53 pm
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:53 pm to
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Google is a more dangerous and powerful monopoly than any monopoly that has ever existed on earth.


Google isn’t a monopoly. There are plenty of viable alternatives for consumers.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:55 pm to
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ETA: My preference would be for the government to have nothing at all to do with Google et. al, but as long as there is cooperation between the two, an enormous amount of scrutiny must be applied. The control of information is probably the most crucial power in today's age, so I'm not going to be all, "but muh shareholders", when it can be a demonstrable threat to public influence.


So either nationalize it or regulate it as a utility, but either way you're ultimately shitting on innovation and success.

I don't disagree with you necessarily, but we're now creating exceptions to the exception and whatnot
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:55 pm to
Personally, I use ixquick.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:56 pm to
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So either nationalize it or regulate it as a utility, but either way you're ultimately shitting on innovation and success.



I think some amount of regulation re: censoring/omission/influencing search results is all that is needed, if that's the route to go.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80121 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:59 pm to
But then you'll have allegations of politicians using the power of the state to "regulate" it for political purposes.

I think transparency is paramount. I love what Facebook has disclosed with the Russian ads. Maybe we can mandate some sort of transparency and then if we, the electorate, are too stupid to know and/or care then we deserve what we get.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:04 am to
The problem that I see at the moment is that this is actually going on without any actual policy to wag a finger at. It's the best of both worlds for both politicians and search engines. Like I said before, a decentralized and uncontrolled information service would be ideal, but all I know how to do is grow crops and read cases. Should start studying more software engineering.
Posted by BradPitt
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:44 am to
When your priority is to censor anything that poses a threat to left wing politics yet fail to grant ISIS and pedophiles the same immediate censorship, there's a serious fricking problem.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 1:15 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:02 am to
Exactly

Leftist are more anti-conservative than anti-isis. That is painfully clear.

And the same assholes here whining about threats to their engines of leftism would jump on bringing back the "fairness doctrine" in a heartbeat if they could.

Oh no don't breath on tootle but if you disagree with me on the street hitting you with a bike lock is a reasonable response.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9079 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:05 am to
I just watched a debate w/ Thiel and Eric Schmidt.

It's from a few years ago, but man, Thiel was giving no fricks.

Here he is congratulating Schmidt on being a great Minister of Propaganda for Google; LINK
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